The Gp2x Linux Os Questions

[Haymaker]

Iv never used a gp32 n never really took notice of anything iv been hearing about it but after hearing about the new gp2x to be released its got me intrested.

I havent seen anything of the os or Gui but im guessing its going to be like youd find on a mobile, like a games icon a music icon etc not something like redhat.

would i be able to just drop an executable into a folder and run it? say a game or an app

Or would you be able to install a small linux compatable game onto it and run it from the flash memory?

im a programmer and like to mess around .net and java will there be any support for either of these?

cheers

 

[Prophet]

Well, it's not out yet so we don't know any details.

But it will likely be as you said - there will be some sort of simple menu that lets you launch apps from internal storage and SD cards. Probably will be a link cable to connect to PC, and you can just drop apps in. Or with SD cards you could probably just use a card reader. Exactly how things work for Gp32, Zodiac or PSP.

Remember, the GP2X isn't out yet (not until late October or early November) and the SDK isn't released yet. So we don't know many details yet.

 

[Talyz]

Well, just because it's linux that doesn't mean you can just drop a linux compatible program in a folder and run it; it has to be reprogrammed for the GP2X (ARM9 architecture, buttons, etc), but with the Debian packages, not very much has to be done ^_^

EDIT: "I'm a programmer", I guess I misunderstood your question then :lol:

 

[Prophet]

He's a programmer, so I assumed he already realizes the apps need to be recompiled and reconfigured for the target platform.

 

[DaveC]

Hopefully it will be as straight forward as the GP32 was. Just drop a FXe into the GPMM dir and it shows up. Nice and simple.

Palm and PDAs had this annoying thing where you had to rename to .mp3 sync over and rename back it was a pain. Hopefully it won't be like windows where 50 files and dlls are sprayed all over in separate directories so when you delete you never get everything and waste space. Hopefully it won't be like that, Don't know never used linux.

 

[Cyclops]

Hopefully it will be as straight forward as the GP32 was. Just drop a FXe into the GPMM dir and it shows up. Nice and simple.

Palm and PDAs had this annoying thing where you had to rename to .mp3 sync over and rename back it was a pain. Hopefully it won't be like windows where 50 files and dlls are sprayed all over in separate directories so when you delete you never get everything and waste space. Hopefully it won't be like that, Don't know never used linux.

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Sooo wrong, so so wrong. I can and will if anyone really needs it post details here. Linux does not use file extentions, it identifies the files through data in the files. It probably will have .o files in seperate directories in say a /lib directory. If you look how similar devices(linux MMP) have there directory stucture.

DaveC use linux pretty please with cherries on top

 

[iignotus]

Linux does not use file extentions

Jesues christ, linux still uses file extensions, and they use them to determine what kind of file there is if there's no recognisable header.

 

[Creature XL]

Hopefully it will be as straight forward as the GP32 was. Just drop a FXe into the GPMM dir and it shows up. Nice and simple.

LiNUX on a standard PC has a specific filestructure as well. And sorry to say it, but with loadable libraries ( Dynamic Link Librarys) it is kind a needed. BUT, as much as nice the dynamic linking is, I hope all GP2X Apps will be linked statically ( then it is just "droping a file into a specific folder). I dont want to update the libs when something changes. It is not very likely but could be:
GPH updates the SDK libs, somebody uses the new functions in a app, so you have to update the SDK libs to run this app.

the static linking would mean, that the same code is linked to every app, but therefore it is easier to use ( BTW, on GP32 the SDK functions are compiled static into the app aswell.

If you think it is unlikely that GPH will add function to the SDK, think about a SDL update...


salut,
creature


P.S.:
the LiNUX/ SDL thing has the big advantage that everybody can start coding on a linux PC and get familiar with SDL verry easy and fast.

 

[Cyclops]

Linux does not use file extentions

Jesues christ, linux still uses file extensions, and they use them to determine what kind of file there is if there's no recognisable header.

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I also said do you want me to go into details

 

[iignotus]

Linux does not use file extentions

Jesues christ, linux still uses file extensions, and they use them to determine what kind of file there is if there's no recognisable header.

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I also said do you want me to go into details

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Why don't you just edit your post into a single smilie.

 

[Cyclops]

Because I'm not being drawn into a fight. I feel embaressed lowerering myself to others.

 

[junker]

why the fuck is iignotus getting all hostile?

 

[Cyclops]

Its my fault. Another thread was getting out of hand

 

[iignotus]

why the fuck is iignotus getting all hostile?

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Well I wouldn't call it hostile, but it probably would've been better left in the other thread.

 

[Talyz]

Hopefully it will be as straight forward as the GP32 was.  Just drop a FXe into the GPMM dir and it shows up.  Nice and simple.

Palm and PDAs had this annoying thing where you had to rename to .mp3 sync over and rename back it was a pain.

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You're VERY updated, you know...

"Never used linux"
Hehe, it shows

 

[Digitalrat]

the LiNUX/ SDL thing has the big advantage that everybody can start coding on a linux PC and get familiar with SDL verry easy and fast.

Anyone knows if they "just" support the plain SDL or also things like SDL_mixer? (if yes, which extensions? )

 

[unlucky]

When it comes to coding is it recommended to install linux or will we be able to cross compile from windows xp like with the gp32. If i needed to switch to using linux for compiling what distro would people recommend would SuSe be fine for cross compiling for the gp2x.. On the gp32 i made extensive use of being able to quickly test my code by compiling and then running on the emulator. With sdl could i basically code it for the pc and test it, then when i wanted to run it on the gp2x can i just change to cross compile for the gp2x instead. Whilst changing the controls etc....

 

[efegea]

When it comes to coding is it recommended to install linux or will we be able to cross compile from windows xp like with the gp32. If i needed to switch to using linux for compiling what distro would people recommend would SuSe be fine for cross compiling for the gp2x.. On the gp32 i made extensive use of being able to quickly test my code by compiling and then running on the emulator. With sdl could i basically code it for the pc and test it, then when i wanted to run it on the gp2x can i just change to cross compile for the gp2x instead. Whilst changing the controls etc....

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GPH say it on their webpage. Linux native compilation or cygwin on windows