Bad news for Germans:
https://netzpolitik.org/2017/staats...te-ueberwachungsgesetz-der-legislaturperiode/
https://netzpolitik.org/2017/staats...te-ueberwachungsgesetz-der-legislaturperiode/
Staying private on internet.
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PCXT
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The biggest problem is that this may pass in any country, and people are divided so much that they won't even protest - because some party will label itself in this protest and other people will not protest for pure contrariness to this party. In my country this is commonly used to make people agree to new law acts.
Also, we have been put with all things already done, and it looks that we like it - starting with widely accepted centralization of internet services, then making the creations and culture disposable, finally making people accept government use of malware with specifically conducted media narration about whistleblowers. Sorry, such things should end with a security apocalypse (with mass production of typewriters), not a market stall full of not working junk sold as miraculous security products.
The last more-or-less freedom initiative was a hacktivism... died in 2010s by commercialization
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About privacy, the malicious usage of JS code recently grown so much that I started to practice "Stallman way" to view some web sites: through wget and youtube-dl.
Also, we have been put with all things already done, and it looks that we like it - starting with widely accepted centralization of internet services, then making the creations and culture disposable, finally making people accept government use of malware with specifically conducted media narration about whistleblowers. Sorry, such things should end with a security apocalypse (with mass production of typewriters), not a market stall full of not working junk sold as miraculous security products.
The last more-or-less freedom initiative was a hacktivism... died in 2010s by commercialization
.About privacy, the malicious usage of JS code recently grown so much that I started to practice "Stallman way" to view some web sites: through wget and youtube-dl.
Caine
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People are to passive to fight for their freedoms today. They take it for granted and thus lose it all in exchange for a little bit of convenience.
ible
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does fighting for gun control make me a bad American? "freedom from fear of being gunned down" is technically a freedom...
levi
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That would be an... ecumenical matter. And also fwiw nothing to do with this thread we're posting in, even if I do personally agree with you.
CabinetofJoy
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"Gun control" is an abstraction. I'm going to apply the meta model and ask, 'what exactly are you referring to?'
So is "(bad) American" for that matter.
Also nothing to do with this thread as far as I can see.
So is "(bad) American" for that matter.
Also nothing to do with this thread as far as I can see.
Yori
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Na, if anything not being passive about it makes you a great American!
I am not looking to start a big raging political debate and at the vary least I would like to keep this civil.
(If anything this is more of a one off comment)
But I believe that we in the States are having a wide spread metal health problem/crises on are hands, not a gun problem.
For example in the past this country did not have a school shooting problem and this is more of a recent phenomenon.
And most shooters, have a pre-existing mental illness that doesn't get diagnosed or taken care of.
In instead of trying to cover put the symptoms of a problem, we should be targeting the root cause of it.
We instead need to stop people from falling through the cracks.
I do not believe more gun control is a solution to the current epidemic.Not because "there coming for are guns" but because there is a deeper rooted issue that we need to address.
Sorry for the rant, but I am curious what you thing about this?
(If ya dont want to talk politics its also fine, But seam like a person who doesn't mind
)(Sorry everyone for going on a off topic rant into politics, but I do love a civil political discussion every so often and this is a topic that I have strong felling on, due to the recent Florida shooting
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Caine
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Probably. From the point of view of the rest of the world that is a good thing these days.
Not really. A demand for freedom from fear will very likely lead to an extreme form of oppression. Fear is a subjective matter.
I always interpreted freedom as absence of coercive force. Ironically, gun laws were meant to ensure just that.
Sounds heavy.
High rates of gun ownership will mean that any conflict which happens is very likely to turn lethal. This still does not fully explain the high rates of conflict in the US. Switzerland has a relatively high gun ownership rate (25%), but low gun crime rates. It does have a fairly high rate of gun related suicides.
The United States is known for a poor health care system and the absence of any significant social welfare safety net. It also has a poorly trained, trigger happy police force which means that criminals have everything to lose. If you cross the line then you go all the way because there is no way back and no way out. But why the school shootings? This I do not understand. It is easy to claim it is just a mental health problem, but people don't just become murderers like that. You need to be very unhappy for a longer time before you snap. Perhaps there is also a culture of violence, bullying and achievement pressure that plays into this.
If come crazy guy with a gun shoots the internet we don't need to talk about Internet privacy any more.
Caine
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Thread goes off-topic, news at eleven
Yori
Hi, how was your day?
ible
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there are certainly underlying mental health issues to address, but getting guns out of untrained, unregulated civilian hands makes everyone safer. no one needs an assault rifle except to hunt and kill other humans.
we have to find a way to get past our evolutionary makeup (survival of the deadliest) and not reduce the earth to a smoldering nuclear wasteland because of ego and one-up-manship. surely that's our mental health issue, but it would be easier if people didn't have nuclear weapons...
we have to find a way to get past our evolutionary makeup (survival of the deadliest) and not reduce the earth to a smoldering nuclear wasteland because of ego and one-up-manship. surely that's our mental health issue, but it would be easier if people didn't have nuclear weapons...
JDTAY
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To be fair, privacy on the internet is like Bigfoot at this point; there isn't really much to talk about, because all we can do is speculate as to what it might be like. >_>
Hard to find.
levi
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FWIW, here's most of my untrusted list from noscript:
That's a mixture of ad platforms, who I don't consider spending my cpu cycles on, tracking services, and few things that I've once blocked and never found the need to unblock again. Your own usage might require unblocking one or two of them, but you're welcome to use it to start off with if you like. And there's plenty of other sites that I just leave as default, since in noscript since the quantum firefox switch, putting things as untrusted no longer hides them in a submenu to keep the list nice and short and manageable, so I've actually marked very little as untrusted since the switch over.
Code:
"untrusted": [
"adroll.com",
"amazon-adsystem.com",
"autolinkmaker.itunes.apple.com",
"cdn.mxpnl.com",
"chartbeat.com",
"connect.facebook.net",
"crwdcntrl.net",
"doubleclick.net",
"edigitalsurvey.com",
"flashtalking.com",
"google-analytics.com",
"googleadservices.com",
"googlesyndication.com",
"googletagmanager.com",
"googletagservices.com",
"intellitxt.com",
"nr-data.net",
"optimizely.com",
"pubmatic.com",
"resources.infolinks.com",
"scorecardresearch.com",
"track.adform.net",
"vk.com",
"vkontakte.ru",
"webtrendslive.com",
"http://ads.pubmatic.com",
"http://assets.pinterest.com",
"http://c.go-mpulse.net",
"http://edge.quantserve.com",
"http://mybbc-analytics.files.bbci.co.uk",
"http://polling.bbc.co.uk",
"https://ams-ads-cornerstone-creatives-eu.s3.amazonaws.com",
"https://js-agent.newrelic.com",
"https://platform.twitter.com",
"https://secure.quantserve.com",
"https://www.facebook.com",
"§:skimresources.com",
"§:statcounter.com",
"§:mathjax.org",
"§:xkcd.com",
"found.ee",
"http://s7.addthis.com",
"addthis.com",
"§:googleanalytics.com",
"https://ssl.googleanalytics.com",
"§:twimg.com",
"https://z.moatads.com",
"https://polling.bbc.co.uk"
],That's a mixture of ad platforms, who I don't consider spending my cpu cycles on, tracking services, and few things that I've once blocked and never found the need to unblock again. Your own usage might require unblocking one or two of them, but you're welcome to use it to start off with if you like. And there's plenty of other sites that I just leave as default, since in noscript since the quantum firefox switch, putting things as untrusted no longer hides them in a submenu to keep the list nice and short and manageable, so I've actually marked very little as untrusted since the switch over.
How can I import that list in PaleMoon with NoScript?
levi
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Yes, I'd suggest you install noscript then export your settings - that which I've posted is an excerpt out of my noscript exported settings, so if you export them, then replace the untrusted in yours with that, then reimport it you should be running with my list of untrusted.
levi
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So, it turns out that facebook were using those 'like this' buttons to track even users who've never logged in to facebook, so that they ca spam you with adverts when you finally do I guess.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/17/facebook_admits_to_tracking_non_users/
I just went on a hunt for one of these buttons. The Engadget website doesn't load at all unless you enable top level javascript, and then the facebook button is just a straight link, but who knows where they're actually sending your IP address. I didn't check if the button image was pulled from a facebook domain, which would be enough to get an IP address, although I have forgotten enough HTTP to remember if it tracks the originating page as referrer or something. The BBC website doesn't seem to have like buttons, at least after I enabled as much javascript as I felt comfortable doing. I should have looked closer to home; the reg article has facebook like buttons on it, if you enable enough javascript to populate them. My block list further up in this thread blocks the facebook domain it uses FWIW.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/17/facebook_admits_to_tracking_non_users/
I just went on a hunt for one of these buttons. The Engadget website doesn't load at all unless you enable top level javascript, and then the facebook button is just a straight link, but who knows where they're actually sending your IP address. I didn't check if the button image was pulled from a facebook domain, which would be enough to get an IP address, although I have forgotten enough HTTP to remember if it tracks the originating page as referrer or something. The BBC website doesn't seem to have like buttons, at least after I enabled as much javascript as I felt comfortable doing. I should have looked closer to home; the reg article has facebook like buttons on it, if you enable enough javascript to populate them. My block list further up in this thread blocks the facebook domain it uses FWIW.
elvissteinjr
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iirc the facebook button was loaded as an iframe usually, so blocking the facebook domain entirely was good enough.
