Rise of the Triad!

[buchsole]

I don't see the doom sources @ google (only Tom's ones) and the binary form doesn't include the gpl license file nor a txt saying where you can get the src... so many emulators that have been ported also don't.

Swiss you shouldn't blame programmers as the way you do. They port a lot of things for free spending a lot of time for it... just a hobby and they aren't earning any money, all the gp32 projects outside gamepark are for free. it is not good to protest that way for a thing you did not pay for.

 

[PulsatingQuasar]

@Swiss Cheeseman

You must be one of the stupidist people on the face of this earth!

You finally get this game on the GP32 and now you try to piss the porter of in such a way he might never port a game to the GP32 again.

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

Fucking hell.

Is it really THAT HARD to include a copy of the GPL in the rott zip file, and a note in the readme file saying "E-mail me if you want the source"?! NO IT ISN'T!!

I am just fucking SICK AND TIRED of programmers ignoring the GPL!! It happens so much with console ports.

Also, Doom comes with a dual license, you can either release it under the GPL, or under a more simple license that just prohibits you from selling the code/binaries.

I may have sounded harsh, but you must remember that any time now 3dRealms could go check the zip file to see if you are upholding the license. If they find out that you havnt distributed it under the terms of the GPL, guess who can be sued for copyright infringement?

 

[Shaking Spirit]

Oh yes, and i'm sure everyone has completely legal stuff on their GP32s *cough**cough*roms*cough*cough*films*cough*cough*simpsonsepisodes
*cough*cough*etc*cough*cough*.

EDIT: Opps, stretched the page.

 

[Xyo]

I think shaking spirit said "Oh yes, and i'm sure everyone has completely legal stuff on their GP32s, Roms, Films, Simpsons episodes, etc."

dunno Just Checkin'

 

[johnno15]

It realy isnt the point if every thing he has is legal what was said was right maybe he said it the wrong way but swiss cheese man made a perfectly valid point COUGH

 

[Cyclops]

LOL as someone who goes on about releasing open source being a good idea generally, especially, for a lets face it unsupported hand held. It is a new release, and a belter at that, there is really no rush to show the source. Now if you were suggesting putting it on sourceforge etc etc for more colabrative working that would be a good idea.

 

[Rambozo]

Here's hoping for adjustable gamma, and RF multiplayer.

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

Sorry for being so harsh, but my point is still valid. I wont contact 3D Realms, but you must realise that its only a matter of time before they find out.

 

[Magic Knight]

I am just fucking SICK AND TIRED of programmers ignoring the GPL!! It happens so much with console ports.

you do get your young knickers in a knot about things which are none of your business don't you

you work for the GPL ? you wrote the GPL ?

the world needs more disgustingly anal nitpickers like you

I may have sounded harsh, but you must remember that any time now 3dRealms could go check the zip file to see if you are upholding the license.

no, you sounded like a prick. a spoilt prick, throwing his toys out of the pram

if you are so worried about the writer getting in trouble with 3dRealms, surely a considerate person like you would have sent a private message first

I wont contact 3D Realms, but you must realise that its only a matter of time before they find out.

oh thank the lord, we can all sleep at night now. thank you so much

your behaviour is appalling and i hope i never see your name on this forum again

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

you do get your young knickers in a knot about things which are none of your business don't you

you work for the GPL ? you wrote the GPL ?

the world needs more disgustingly anal nitpickers like you

Oh please. Sorry for upholding the GPL license, sorry for protecting the original artists rights.

The GPL is everyones buisness. Everyone has the right to see that code.

no, you sounded like a prick. a spoilt prick, throwing his toys out of the pram

if you are so worried about the writer getting in trouble with 3dRealms, surely a considerate person like you would have sent a private message first

I wont deny that I sounded like a prick, I did come off as an asshole, no denying it. Perhaps its my short fuse with ignorant people like you.

However, I am not spoilt. If anything, the person who ported this is spoilt. He is keeping the source code to himself, I want him to release it to the public. How is that being spoilt? I want the source to be there for everyone!

I probably should have private messaged him, but I doubt that would have changed anything, as no source code as popped up even though its gone public!

oh thank the lord, we can all sleep at night now. thank you so much

your behaviour is appalling and i hope i never see your name on this forum again

Oh blah blah. I'm right, eventually they will find out, and it will be the porters ass when they do.

Oh, and I beleive its far more likely that you will be banned. Requesting warez, which you did in another thread, is a bannable offence. Also, one of the admins of this board tends to agree with me on this topic, making your situation far worse.

Bye bye.

 

[Magic Knight]

Oh please. Sorry for upholding the GPL license

that was not your intention

He is keeping the source code to himself

that's why you mentioned it, continuing to confirm my low opinion of you, your opinions and your actions

he does a port, which people are enjoying (not that i am.. yet) and you, in your petty frustration at not being allowed HIS CODE - attack him by looking damned hard at whatever he provided with the release (or in this case, forgot to provide)

well done

Also, one of the admins of this board tends to agree with me on this topic

now why am i not surprised to learn that you are a bleater who runs around crying and pointing the finger when somebody picks you up on something

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

that was not your intention

Then what was it? Personal gain? What have I got to gain? I am bringing attention to it because I firmly beleive in the GPL and what it stands for. I'm not even a programmer

you, in your petty frustration at not being allowed HIS CODE - attack him by looking damned hard at whatever he provided with the release (or in this case, forgot to provide)

Its not that hard to look at the zip file and not see a GPL.txt file in there. That alone is copyright infringement.

As a programmer, it is his responsibility to keep track of this kind of legal stuff.

now why am i not surprised to learn that you are a bleater who runs around crying and pointing the finger when somebody picks you up on something

Define "bleater"

 

[RoboJoe32]

Yeah, i'm sure the creators of ROTT are really making a fortune off of all of those old diskettes of the game right now, we should include the license and give them some of the royalties of the game that's being ported.....

Geez, what is wrong with you? It's just a game THAT NO ONE is profiting off of, you should respect the man for porting it, not threatening him like a f***ing metallica lawyer wannabe. The GP32 scene is already shaky enough as it is without some whiny spoiled brat trying to ruin it by telling companies about ports of games they don't even remember since the original coder team has probably vanished or disbanded.

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

Whaddya know, another person who doesnt read my posts!

Please, go ahead and show me proof that they are not profiting from it!

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

Coming to your local newsagent soon!

 

[Magic Knight]

I wont deny that I sounded like a prick, I did come off as an asshole, no denying it. Perhaps its my short fuse with ignorant people like you.

so now you're calling the coder/porter - ignorant ?

Please, go ahead and show me proof that they are not profiting from it!

why not show us some proof that the coder/porter is making money from his work which is available on websites for free download !?

this conversation has shown you to be :

1) a prick
2) a bleater
3) a liar

and now we get to some more vicious spite from you - that's a nice picture you've done there - adding further to my opinion of you as someone with too much destructive time on their hands

dont slag others off for not listening - you clearly have no clue about economics - the company profits by maximum availability - now go annoy some other corner of your little world

 

[jegHegy]

ahahaha, Magic Knight, you crack me up

 

[Swiss_Cheeseman]

This is getting stupid. I am struggling to find answers to your questions, as they are getting less and less informed. You really are a moron.

But, because I dont like giving up...

so now you're calling the coder/porter - ignorant ?

yes

why not show us some proof that the coder/porter is making money from his work which is available on websites for free download !?

Its not about that, the download is not for "free", it is simply licensed so you can distribute it without worrying about copyright infringement, if you supply and agree to the license. He did not do that, he did not supply a license, he broke copyright, the binaries are illegal.

this conversation has shown you to be :

1) a prick
2) a bleater
3) a liar

A prick maybe, I dunno what a bleater is, but I dont think I am one of them.

A liar?

I never lied in any of these posts. Where did I lie?

and now we get to some more vicious spite from you - that's a nice picture you've done there - adding further to my opinion of you as someone with too much destructive time on their hands

Hey, you insulted me first. Thanks, I rather like it myself. It took me 5 minutes (which is obvious ;P).

So, have you posted on the 3drealms forums yet?

EDIT: Oops, didnt see that bottom line.

Where the hell are they going to profit from this? Noone will buy the game if its warezed! And when it comes to the GPL, they have every right to protect their code. If they wanted it public domain, then they would have made it public domain, wouldnt they?

 

[RoboJoe32]

Let's see you port a few games and see if YOU remember the GPL after hours of typeing code and optimizing and testing for a few hours straight.