You are in luck, many people speak English. Get someone to read this to you, (and possibly explain it):
Spending my money, like I want to, is my freedom, and sense thereof, which is down to choice,
mine, not yours, your point is null, void, and a hypocrisy.
Do not attack my person through a strawman.
Debian is perfectly fine, the RYF is perfectly fine with Debian. Nobody else in this thread has had a problem with Debian thus far.
Google is not ok with anyone shipping gapps or a solution that facilitates it with the OS, unless you license it from them.
you can thus, not advertise 'Full Android Installation with access to the Google Play store!
That cyanogenmod or suchlike does not advertise it that way, should give you a clue as to why we cant do it either.
You don't like F-droid or replicant, hardened excrements. I'm sure you are going to deal with the ensuing legal nightmare and/or licensing issues and payment? No? Tough shit again. Those are your options.
If you bothered to read the thread you would see me voicing concern about actual problems with the FSF and how to solve them. Answering with valid solutions, issues, which aren't made up. Learn.
An OS that doesn't ship with hardware support? -No. Right off the bat. ISHYGDDT costanza bonanza.
Remember, this debate is hardware, which has free drivers, which is how you get kernel support out of the box, which is what the RYF is about. Such a solution is about limiting hacks, not banking on them. Your solution, diamentrally opposite. Notice how closed solutions are limited to freedom that matters, not coincidental. That your freedom is thus always void, correlation.
We cannot ship windows because our already existing community does not like it, (same problem Microsoft has) how about entertaining that idea and not facilitate cancer, FUD.
A clear idea is good, focus your energy, on a good idea, not how to make it worse. Anything but something that is equally good, the best compromise,
takes away from the bottom line, its a solution that excludes, and is also economically not sound. With a RYF solution you can sell units to people who want to support that type of system. One that includes
everyone. Whatever you think about them, or call them, those extra people who will only settle for nothing less, pay the same as anyone else. Extra money, more freedom, more customers. We are in the open market, not the closed one. Free is free for reasons it isn't closed, there is no two ways about it.
Closed non-free, open, possibly free, free, definitely free.
More freedom in the software world means actually adhering to copyright, welcome to the real world. Legally you can trust in that those freedoms (which are defined
for reasons) are upheld. Otherwise, feel free to make a non-free system and/or one that doesn't respect copyright, I wont use it. And guess what, when you make it, its copyrighted, by default. Do with that as you will, but cry about it somewhere else. As long as you don't have a system we like better, as devs and users, its pointless to cry to us about the reasons why you don't like free software.
We have what we have and the experience using it, we have a free system, that can inherently be made non-free through hardware. You do this in a downward fashion. Free hardware to us, free solution from us to the user. The user is at the liberty to
do whatever with that freedom, because its where it belongs, fully there for the consumer. There are no restrictions that are contrary to this point. The RYF is not contrary to this point.
Shipping proprietary drivers in any sense limits those software freedoms, and for what benefit, going full retard?
If you want a
pre-installed windows system, you can just go buy one of those discounted tablets that nobody wants to buy. Joining that market is dumb, because effectively that is subsidizing hardware by putting an OS on it that bad enough that people avoid it, in a market saturated with readily subsidized devices. Also, ARM windows is crazy restrictive in ways that remove freedom. MS cant spend enough money trying to create that market, and nobody wants to help them.
Pandora is a niche device for a niche audience, thats our market, use logic, make sure its consistent. If you dont, keep in mind people like you that seemingly dont, are few and far between, luckily.
"not because the drivers arent good." That means: regardless the state of drivers, the problem exists. There is a problem, that isnt to do with drivers. There is a primary concern, and its valid for reasons drivers cant exclude, thus, the problem is somewhere else.
The lignux name has already been canned, which you would know if you did some research.
Grench, what language do you speak natively?
I do not see how that is mundane to the topic. However, the answer is English.
I dont know what language you know how to write. However, the answer isn't English.
"The word 'mundane' has come to mean boring and dull, and it really shouldn't. It should mean the opposite because it comes from the latin 'mundus', meaning the world, and the world is anything but dull; the world is wonderful. There's
real poetry in the
real world.
Science is the poetry of reality." -Hadawkins!
