Renaming the Trash?

[liquidcross]

Is there any way to do this? When I booted up CaSTaway for the first time, my Trash was called something like "papierkorb." Weird.

 

[psipoc]

are you sure you've got a english TOS.img(although mine is english and does it) or it might be the disk a and b that come with the emulator not 100% sure but i had a game that crashed to english and it all went back to disk a,disk b and trash????????????

 

[stickofjoy]

that means you are using a foriegn language TOS image.

 

[liquidcross]

that means you are using a foriegn language TOS image.

Actually, I'm using a US TOS. I use the same TOS for both CaSTaway and for Steem on my PC at work. On Steem, it says "Trash," on CaSTaway, something else. Could it be the disk images that came with CaSTaway?

 

[skeezix]

My memory has faded.. ont he ST you coudl definately rename drives (floppy and hard)./. so you coudl rename Drive C: to "Foogazi" if you wanted to. I forget if youcoudl rename trash... I just dont' recall. Never bothered to do it back in the day, and I ran NeoDesk most of the time anyway (and NeoDesk works under Castaway

You could try renaming it perhaps under Show Info or Install Icon or the like. IT also likely depends on the TOS version.. the later TOS/GEM's were much more flezible, too. And the default certainly comes from the language version, and some like Kaos.TOS etc were all hacke dup good

jeff

 

[liquidcross]

I'm using TOS 1.02 at the moment.

What's NeoDesk? I don't suppose you can download that someplace...

 

[skeezix]

I'm using TOS 1.02 at the moment.

What's NeoDesk? I don't suppose you can download that someplace...

NeoDesk was a replacement desktop (like WindUps is for GP32). You coudl put background image son desktop, put text notes on the desktop, rename anything, make icons for apps to quick launch, and all sorts of cool stuff.

Its still commercial, to this day. Google for Gribnif and NeoDesk I think.

jeff

 

[stickofjoy]

Well this means that it was a foreign TOS the created the DESKTOP.INF - sort of like a mini INI file or registry that stores some GEM settings such as Icon info and window placement.

Solution: trash the desktop.inf file, reboot and "save desktop" again.

15 years old that knowledge, it's amazing what sticks isn't it?

PS: Neodesk by Gribnif SOftware rocks. Another fact that stuck!

 

[liquidcross]

Well this means that it was a foreign TOS the created the DESKTOP.INF - sort of like a mini INI file or registry that stores some GEM settings such as Icon info and window placement.

Solution: trash the desktop.inf file, reboot and "save desktop" again.

Alright, I'll give that a shot. Where's desktop.inf located? The A/B drives?

 

[tapsel]

My trash is called "Papierkorb" too... I have no problem with
it. It's just german.

 

[liquidcross]

Deleting the desktop.inf files didn't change anything. I rebooted CaSTaway, and the incorrect name was still there.

Here's a thought: could a program like Steem make new virtual disks, to replace DISKA.STT and DISKB.STT? Do you think that would get rid of the German trash label?

 

[stickofjoy]

if you are using English TOS and boot with zero disks insterted you should see "Trash", then insert the disc and save the desktop. then of course save your disc image!

 

[liquidcross]

if you are using English TOS and boot with zero disks insterted you should see "Trash", then insert the disc and save the desktop. then of course save your disc image!

How do I do that? :blink:

 

[stickofjoy]

if you are using English TOS and boot with zero disks insterted you should see "Trash", then insert the disc and save the desktop. then of course save your disc image!

How do I do that? :blink:

OK:

switch on your GP32.
select free launcher.
select castaway
(make sure diska or diskb images are not present, if they eject them)
press start.
(the st will boot to desktop when no discs are inserted)

now, insert the disc you want to have the desktop.inf saved to. using the lime green atari GUI interface, choose Options|Save Desktop (this wil save the desktop info file to your floppy in drive A)

finally, because this is emulation, that has only saved the file to the disc image in memory, so you need to save the disc image back to SMC (note this is not "save state" but "save disc image")



alternatively, you could use an ST HEX editor to edit the Desktop.inf file to rename the trash to anything you like?

matt

 

[liquidcross]

now, insert the disc you want to have the desktop.inf saved to. using the lime green atari GUI interface, choose Options|Save Desktop (this wil save the desktop info file to your floppy in drive A)

That's the part that throws me for a loop. How do I insert a disk from the ST desktop? And more importantly...what disk do I use? As you can tell, I'm a complete Atari ST newbie.

 

[skeezix]

Several things..

1) Why do you care? You wont' see the desktop much anyway, and when you do, not for long. (Unless you're plannig on doing non-gaming stuff, which would be cool

2) Since theres no emulated hard drive, then you're booting from floppies; each floppy would need its own desktop.inf to be consistent.. if you fix one floppy, then its not changed on any other floppy, since obviously the ST doens' tknow about any of them except the current ones.

(ie: You boot one floppy; the ST knows about that floppy and shows its desktop settings. If you boot another floppy, it has no idea about the previous one. Its only when you have a hard drive, that it becomes the constant)

3) Changing floppies is documented; check the README.htm for the floppy disk menu Or just hit START, hit Floppy Disk Submenu, and go to town

jeff

 

[liquidcross]

Unless you're plannig on doing non-gaming stuff, which would be cool.

Jackpot.

Many thanks for the help! I'll give it a whirl when I get back from work. And kudos on such a killer app; you're a machine!

 

[Axeman]

Just curious - why? :rolleyes:

 

[skeezix]

Unless you're plannig on doing non-gaming stuff, which would be cool.

Jackpot.

Many thanks for the help! I'll give it a whirl when I get back from work. And kudos on such a killer app; you're a machine!

Yeah, I'm *killer curious* now

I've thought about trying out CAD 3D version 2 .. it was pretty wild But it is seriously *wrong*

jeff

 

[stickofjoy]

now, insert the disc you want to have the desktop.inf saved to. using the lime green atari GUI interface, choose Options|Save Desktop (this wil save the desktop info file to your floppy in drive A)

That's the part that throws me for a loop. How do I insert a disk from the ST desktop? And more importantly...what disk do I use? As you can tell, I'm a complete Atari ST newbie.

Argh! Give up on this, as others say this is for no real gain.

But anyway, you insert a disc by using the CaSTaway menu (START) and you insert the disc that you want to later boot to desktop with. Now, i give up!

Out of interest, when you boot with zero discs inserted, what does the Trash say?