While I would love to dismiss this as a bit of trolling, by now I wouldn't actually put it past Sony to actually do something genuinely stupid like that.If you do, Sony will sue you for using a Sony product in tandem with a non-Sony-approved program. Just ask George Hotz!
We're talking about non-Sony-approved activities on a non-Sony-approved website, we're done for!While I would love to dismiss this as a bit of trolling, by now I wouldn't actually put it past Sony to actually do something genuinely stupid like that.If you do, Sony will sue you for using a Sony product in tandem with a non-Sony-approved program. Just ask George Hotz!
They've been doing stuff like this since around 1999 or so, in just as high-profile a fashion. Why is everyone so surprised about it *now*? I'm genuinely curious.While I would love to dismiss this as a bit of trolling, by now I wouldn't actually put it past Sony to actually do something genuinely stupid like that.If you do, Sony will sue you for using a Sony product in tandem with a non-Sony-approved program. Just ask George Hotz!
Because now, it's personal.They've been doing stuff like this since around 1999 or so, in just as high-profile a fashion. Why is everyone so surprised about it *now*? I'm genuinely curious.While I would love to dismiss this as a bit of trolling, by now I wouldn't actually put it past Sony to actually do something genuinely stupid like that.If you do, Sony will sue you for using a Sony product in tandem with a non-Sony-approved program. Just ask George Hotz!
How is this most recent identical move any different to the bleem! LLC case, the rootkit scandal, the Lik-Sang fiasco, and so on?
And again, how is that any different to all of the other times?Because now, it's personal.
Yes, yes it is.Prometheus, isn't it you he keeps warning me about using logic on the internet?
And again, how is that any different to all of the other times?Because now, it's personal.
But again, this is no different from taking a small company to court, losing that case, and continuing to drag them back in order to cause the legal fees to rack up so as to kill off that company anyway, or from buying up a similar company to the one they killed in order to kill off their products because the court thing probably wouldn't work a second time after they'd already lost the other one, or from getting a judgement against an absent party and putting an end to their business, or from installing malware via audio CDs onto the computers of paying customers...LOL, it's just hit a breaking point. Geo just seemed to be this guy, living his life, doing his thing, and saving the free world. It's because deep down inside, sure we all contain bits of bleem!, fear of rootkits, etc., but deeper down lies the compelling truth: we are all geohot.
Anyhow, and Sony did some especially nasty things here, like taking his stuff, asking for IP addresses from Google of everybody who's had anything to do with PS3 hacking, etc. This time, it just feels wrong. Not the regular type of wrong either that we get from Micro$oft, but I mean a new type of evil. Advaaaannnceed evil.
It's certainly not new or surprising, nor is it fundamentally different, I'll give you that. However, up until now, people have been able to find a nice, comfortable rationalisation for Sony's behaviour. The rootkit? Oh, just a bad judgement call. Bleem? Lik-Sang? Oh, that's just business. People finally get jittery when they see Big Business going after Joe in the attic, tinkering with his PS3. However, there are seriously people praising Sony to high heaven for the current cases against Geohot and others, rationalising it as Sony just taking care of the dirty cheaters. <_<They've been doing stuff like this since around 1999 or so, in just as high-profile a fashion. Why is everyone so surprised about it *now*? I'm genuinely curious.While I would love to dismiss this as a bit of trolling, by now I wouldn't actually put it past Sony to actually do something genuinely stupid like that.If you do, Sony will sue you for using a Sony product in tandem with a non-Sony-approved program. Just ask George Hotz!
How is this most recent identical move any different to the bleem! LLC case, the rootkit scandal, the Lik-Sang fiasco, and so on?
Now that makes sense! Thankyou for the explanation. (Incidentally, Sony's part of the RIAA, aren't they?)It's certainly not new or surprising, nor is it fundamentally different, I'll give you that. However, up until now, people have been able to find a nice, comfortable rationalisation for Sony's behaviour. The rootkit? Oh, just a bad judgement call. Bleem? Lik-Sang? Oh, that's just business. People finally get jittery when they see Big Business going after Joe in the attic, tinkering with his PS3. However, there are seriously people praising Sony to high heaven for the current cases against Geohot and others, rationalising it as Sony just taking care of the dirty cheaters. <_<
Anyway, the thing that surprised me is not so much the dickiness of what they're doing as the stupidness. From the OtherOS removal forward, Sony's done nothing but shoot itself in the foot continuously. Going after consumers in court is fine and dandy when you're the RIAA or MPAA and don't have to care about your own reputation, but I just can't see it doing anything positive for Sony.
You're welcome. Yeah, Sony's a member of both the RIAA and the MPAA. Thing is, people see the RIAA screw over a poor housewive or student, and don't think of the corporations that it's made up of.Now that makes sense! Thankyou for the explanation. (Incidentally, Sony's part of the RIAA, aren't they?)
As long as they, themselves, aren't the target, they don't really need to care. After all, Sony's only going after the pirates and cheaters, and leaving all us good folk alone. There's also the matter of how little news of Sony's exploits reaches beyond the tech sphere. Having boots stomp all over our freedom isn't as important as the latest zoo animal to attract a following.Regarding people finally getting jittery now, I now have to wonder how they didn't see it coming. :blink: I mean, I saw it coming back in 1999...
But again, this is no different from taking a small company to court, losing that case, and continuing to drag them back in order to cause the legal fees to rack up so as to kill off that company anyway, or from buying up a similar company to the one they killed in order to kill off their products because the court thing probably wouldn't work a second time after they'd already lost the other one, or from getting a judgement against an absent party and putting an end to their business, or from installing malware via audio CDs onto the computers of paying customers...LOL, it's just hit a breaking point. Geo just seemed to be this guy, living his life, doing his thing, and saving the free world. It's because deep down inside, sure we all contain bits of bleem!, fear of rootkits, etc., but deeper down lies the compelling truth: we are all geohot.
Anyhow, and Sony did some especially nasty things here, like taking his stuff, asking for IP addresses from Google of everybody who's had anything to do with PS3 hacking, etc. This time, it just feels wrong. Not the regular type of wrong either that we get from Micro$oft, but I mean a new type of evil. Advaaaannnceed evil.
We are not "all geohot" - they've long been an anti-consumer company doing anti-consumer things such as those listed above. Why is this one any different? Seriously. I've been trying to figure this out for weeks, and it being "advanced evil" is not a satisfactory explanation (to me, at least) as to why people are acting as though this sort of thing is new and sudden, and suddenly taking umbrage over it, over at least a decade after it all really started.
As much as I love Sony products, I am not happy knowing that since visiting the wiki and reading more about Geohot and his argument against Sony (and following the link to his blog) that due to a court order granted Sony they will now be tracking my IP and where I visit for who know how long, just because I looked at the dudes blog.