New Iphone 3g S Has Same Hardware As Pandora


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Would someone with a little more knowledge on this same-hardware subject write a little piece on openXile about it? I'd like to do one, but I don't really know enough about it.
 
Hope the icontrolpad comes out eventually and works on iPhone 3GS!!!!

I am definately getting the new iPhone (got 3G at moment) hopefully close to launch date - love my iPhone 3G best all round entertainment device ever - my GP32 comes very close.

Already paid for my Pandora and would not dream of cancelling - the Pandora screen/controls etc can't be touched

Both devices are awesome and deserve to do very well and with the iPhone GS out very soon it may even keep me happy until Pandora - if not then will have to get a Wiz when Craig has them back in stock.
 
This is some interesting news. Now I'm seriously tempted to pick up an iPhone 3GS since, after being jailbroken and coupled with the iControlPad, it would be able to do a lot of what I wanted to do with the Pandora. Some people brought up concerns that the longer the Pandora takes to come out, the less lucrative & appealing it will seem because we'll see similar hardware in other devices, and I feel I'm witnessing this right now. I'm also digging the things the iPhone has over the Pandora (is a phone (!) and better mp3 player, smaller and much more portable form factor, cool OS, more mainstream & commercial-quality games, and, of course, the best part is that there's a concrete release date!).

Hmm...
 
I think intented markets also have to be taken in effect for you to realize what you want. The iPhone is no doubt intended for the embedded/cell-phone/PIM with games, internet, etc added on. The Pandora is intended more to be a ultra-mobile gaming and internet capable device with gps/cell-phone/etc added on. They utilize effectively the same core, but their OS selection couldn't be much more different. I'm not saying one is better over the other, but it becomes quite apparent which device would be more appropriate for you once you decide what you want to do. The good thing is that there appears to be some overlap and you might be able to get either device and add capabilities of the other.
 
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After 3500 posts on this forum you realized that? :p

Phone: OK. Clear win for the iPhone. Although Pandora will run Skype at some time in the future. However, the iPhone has this too.
MP3 Media Player: Pandora will have more choice. Considering the build-in speakers: iPods suck very hard. Really crappy sound. Didn't hear those of the iPhone, but I'm betting they're the very same.
More portable: How portable do you want it to get? The iPhone does not have gaming controls, all kinds of functional ports, dual SD slots and a full keyboard, by the way.
Cool OS: Pandora will have so many OS's you WILL find a very cool one eventually. The iPhone has, only one OS.
More mainstream and commercial quality games: Pandora can emulate whole libraries of those. And it will have new games also. Maybe not super duper 3D games, but who cares. You want a commercial gaming system for that. Nintendo DS and Sony PSP are WAY beyond what the iPhone has to offer. Commercial releases will find their way to the Pandora, eventually. Maybe not in large quantities, but still.
Concrete release date: We will see about that. First thing to learn in electronics and gaming land is: do NOT trust release dates.
 
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MP3 Media Player: Pandora will have more choice. Considering the build-in speakers: iPods suck very hard. Really crappy sound. Didn't hear those of the iPhone, but I'm betting they're the very same.
While the Pandora will have better codec support, I'm going to be viewing so few videos on the go that it's almost a moot point. I intend to use the speakers only for games (primarily retro, in which case I don't need high quality speakers on such a portable unit). For music, where sound quality matters, I don't see myself using the speakers on either device.

More portable: How portable do you want it to get? The iPhone does not have gaming controls, all kinds of functional ports, dual SD slots and a full keyboard, by the way.
More portable than the Pandora. Let's face it, the Pandora isn't exactly tiny. The iPhone is portable enough to become a device that I could carry around with me all the time. I certainly don't see the Pandora in that light (unless I want a rectangular bulge always sitting in my pocket, which is personally too much for me in my day to day life).

As per my original post I'm looking at the iPhone this way assuming that the iControlPad works just fine with it (that takes care of the gaming controls part). As far as ports are concerned, the main things missing from the iPhone would be USB Host & TV-Out. These two are ones to seriously consider as one of the Pandora's greatest advantages is the ability to use it as a "Pandora Cube" (to borrow Craig's words). I'm not going to lie and say that USB Host & TV-Out are 2 big pros for the Pandora.

iPhone has a solid amount of storage space on it, and I don't see myself using SDIO, so the dual SD slots won't really be missed.

The QWERTY keypad will be missed for internet browsing, I'm not going to lie about that.

Cool OS: Pandora will have so many OS's you WILL find a very cool one eventually. The iPhone has, only one OS.
All I need is *a* cool OS, so it's not a negative in my books if the iPhone only has one (cool) OS. I'm not too much of a stickler on a neat OS, but it can be a nice perk. I'm sure with due time I'd find a nice Pandora OS, but it's also nice to have a great one right from the get-go, you know?

More mainstream and commercial quality games: Pandora can emulate whole libraries of those. And it will have new games also. Maybe not super duper 3D games, but who cares. You want a commercial gaming system for that. Nintendo DS and Sony PSP are WAY beyond what the iPhone has to offer. Commercial releases will find their way to the Pandora, eventually. Maybe not in large quantities, but still.
Assuming jailbroken, iPhone also should be able to emulate whole libraries of those. And it will have new games also. Super duper 3D games (and 2D ones, of course). I have a Nintendo DS for commercial gaming, but what's the harm in having more commercial games for a device? It's nice to have it all there as an option in one device. I think this one is a clear-cut iPhone win?

Concrete release date: We will see about that. First thing to learn in electronics and gaming land is: do NOT trust release dates.
I trust Apple a lot more with release dates for the iPhone than I do the OpenPandora crew with the Pandora, and at this rate I think we'll see the iPhone 3GS a lot sooner than the Pandora ;)

Just to clarify, I'm not trying to come off here as saying iPhone 3GS > Pandora. There's clearly a lot that the Pandora brings to the table that would be sorely missed with the iPhone 3GS (TV-Out, USB Host, QWERTY keypad, nice scene, etc.; in addition, this comparison is assuming that the iPhone 3GS is jailbroken and works just fine with the iControlPad), and I don't plan on cancelling my pre-order and jumping on the iPhone 3GS bandwagon. It's just that now there's enough pros with the iPhone 3GS for one to go "Hmm..." at the idea of comparing it with the Pandora, and I'm simply entertaining that idea :)
 
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iPhone 3GS complements the Pandora it is not a possible replacement.

Pandora with the higher resolution and 4.3" screen is still number 1.

Add that to the guaranteed open source and even with jailbreaking and the icontrolpad the iPhone 3GS will only be number 2 to those of us that want the best - thats what the last 2 years of waiting have all been about!

Exciting times ahead!!!!!
 
Concrete release date: We will see about that. First thing to learn in electronics and gaming land is: do NOT trust release dates.
I trust Apple a lot more with release dates for the iPhone than I do the OpenPandora crew with the Pandora, and at this rate I think we'll see the iPhone 3GS a lot sooner than the Pandora ;"]
[/quote]Yeah, like next week. I very much doubt the Pandora can boast that. I myself am looking very much forward to the iControlpad
 
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iPhone 3GS has SGX 535 as opposed to Pandora's 530 ... couple that with the fact that it needs to "power" 480x320 pixels as opposed to 800x600 and it is clear which platform will perform better.
 
Confirmed: Pandora is 800 by 600 now.
By which I mean, it's 800 by 480, but I've seen two people mistake it for 600 now...
I'm still not worried about performance until the iDevices actually use it, by letting the end-user install programs without any restrictions.
Until then, the performance is just going to a handful of commercial / adware games, just like in a game console.
 
Xian Long said:
let's not start this again. the iphone has an SGX 520, as stated by Exophase.

I have no idea who Exophase is but I tend to trust my own device more …. which happened to have a file named IMGSGX535GLDriver.bundle not to mention GL_RENDERER reporting SGX 535.

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Apple%20iPhone%203G%20S&benchmark=glpro (GL Environment tab)
 
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lulzfish said:
<strike>Confirmed: Pandora is 800 by <b>600</b> now.</strike>
By which I mean, it's 800 by 480, but I've seen two people mistake it for 600 now...
I'm still not worried about performance until the iDevices actually use it, by letting the end-user install programs without any restrictions.
Until then, the performance is just going to a handful of commercial / adware games, just like in a game console.
I don't blame you ... it is kind of hard to compare performance against a device that doesn't exist.
 
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Gruso said:
How about a comparison to a device that does exist:

http://www.zodttd.com/blog/2009/06/30/palm-pre-gets-some-playstation-action/

:D
Depends ... in terms of GPU power , the iPhone should be slightly faster but beyond that who knows ....
 
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The Zottds'sblog entry dissapeared.

So what about the performance of the pandora, iphone and palm pre???
 
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Hint: Look at the name.
 
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