Christoph.Krn
Advanced Member
Having just seen this post with a reddit topic embedded, I have to say that's just ridiculous. Since when has this been a thing on this forum?
The positive aspect of all this embedding is that it is nice to have everything readily loaded on one page, after all.
The problem in this specific case however is the following: This forum software, XenForo, with Ed's settings, normally works well even if you do what @lukey has done in the screenshot in the first post of this thread: disable scripts and embeddings / requests to other sites in order to avoid (some of) the negative aspects mentioned above. But several of the embedding systems that Ed has enabled on this forum don't work well if you disable these things. They do not "degrade gracefully", meaning that if you do what lukey has done, you will no longer be able to see these embedded things, not even as a regular link to the full page that the embedded information comes from. This is likely unnecessary, some people who made some of these embedding systems didn't make them degrade gracefully. If they had, there would be no problem.
Moreover, if you write something on this forum, for certain links you currently have no choice whether you want to embed the information, or just put a plain old hyperlink to it. There can be various reasons why one may choose not to embed a given link.
I hope this helped you and others here understand this. If anything is still unclear, please ask.
As for my personal opinion on this issue, I think that those embedding plugins on this forum which don't degrade gracefully should just be disabled (and/or maybe a bug / feature request filed with the author(s)), and all other plugins should be configured to leave a choice between embedding and plain old linking if possible.
Why someone would want to disable the embedding? Negative aspects of embedding systems can be anything from tracking, higher CPU usage / energy consumption (lower battery runtime) if elaborate or bloated scripts run in the background, (much?) higher data usage (not everyone in the world has a fast connection with unlimited data transmission), to (of course) longer loading times.Please do not disable embedded Youtube Videos.
Many Users of us like them.
@lukey
Why do you want to disable that all?
Do you not like Scripts or do you have a too slow Internet Connection?
Or are you angry because that Blocked Scripting Messages in your Browser?
Do you realy want Internet without Cookies,Scripts,Videos,Twitter and others?
I dislike some of them too but there are many Sites they dont work without Cookies.
It is simply Web 2.0
I am shure there are other..more minimal/secured Browsers which work better for you then
The positive aspect of all this embedding is that it is nice to have everything readily loaded on one page, after all.
The problem in this specific case however is the following: This forum software, XenForo, with Ed's settings, normally works well even if you do what @lukey has done in the screenshot in the first post of this thread: disable scripts and embeddings / requests to other sites in order to avoid (some of) the negative aspects mentioned above. But several of the embedding systems that Ed has enabled on this forum don't work well if you disable these things. They do not "degrade gracefully", meaning that if you do what lukey has done, you will no longer be able to see these embedded things, not even as a regular link to the full page that the embedded information comes from. This is likely unnecessary, some people who made some of these embedding systems didn't make them degrade gracefully. If they had, there would be no problem.
Moreover, if you write something on this forum, for certain links you currently have no choice whether you want to embed the information, or just put a plain old hyperlink to it. There can be various reasons why one may choose not to embed a given link.
I hope this helped you and others here understand this. If anything is still unclear, please ask.
As for my personal opinion on this issue, I think that those embedding plugins on this forum which don't degrade gracefully should just be disabled (and/or maybe a bug / feature request filed with the author(s)), and all other plugins should be configured to leave a choice between embedding and plain old linking if possible.
