Anyone Else Planning To Try Gnustep?

[ben_dash]

I've been bitten by the GNUstep bug.

Until now I used GTK for everything with Gnome on big screens and XFCE on small screens, and program in Win32 in my day job, but I'm really liking what I see in GNUstep and I'm wondering if it would work well in 800x480.

It would be pretty cool to have a pocket-sized NeXT, aka Apple OSX, box which you could develop on using ObjC and Cocoa.

I see that it's already in the requested ports thread so others are indeed interested.

Any thoughts?

 

[rabidpoobear]

I see that it's already in the requested ports thread so others are indeed interested.

Any thoughts?

Are you going to port it or are you just posting redundant stuff from the ports request page? (that was my first thought)

 

[lulzfish]

I have no idea what GNUstep is.

Wiki link for lazy people (I sympathize with laziness):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUstep

I wonder if I could get a virtual machine of that. I feel like I should at least try Obj-C before yelling about it, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it if it isn't as good as Qt.

 

[rabidpoobear]

I have no idea what GNUstep is.

Wiki link for lazy people (I sympathize with laziness):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUstep

I wonder if I could get a virtual machine of that. I feel like I should at least try Obj-C before yelling about it, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it if it isn't as good as Qt.

wanted to port HippoDraw

HOLY... I NOW KNOW WHAT TO CALL MY NEW DRAWING APPLICATION.

 

[Sphinxter]

Used a Next for a couple years, no desire to return to it.

 

[ben_dash]

Are you going to port it or are you just posting redundant stuff from the ports request page? (that was my first thought)

I was looking for some more in depth opinions than just the "I want it" that the ports page game me.

I'm going to see how well it works at 800x480 but if it does work well I may have a go at porting the Gentoo ebuild, and sources, to ARM. It's no problem to add ObjC to GCC on the Pandora so it might not be very difficult at all; it might "just work".

 

[ben_dash]

Used a Next for a couple years, no desire to return to it.

Out of curiosity, was NeXT bad or do you just like something else more? What do you prefer and why, MS Windows, KDE, Gnome, XFCE, E17, OSX?

 

[ben_dash]

I have no idea what GNUstep is.

Wiki link for lazy people (I sympathize with laziness):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUstep

I wonder if I could get a virtual machine of that. I feel like I should at least try Obj-C before yelling about it, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it if it isn't as good as Qt.

I'm running a KVM virtual machine now from a LiveCD http://livecd.gnustep.org/

After 18 years of programming Win32, in C and C++ (and even some Delphi and VB back in the early 90s), 15 years of Java AWT and Swing, and toying with some GTK app writing in C, C++, C#, and Vala, I just recently discovered ObjC and Cocoa and I really like what I see. Having never developed for NeXT or Apple OSX, I really feel like I've been missing out.

The GUI development tools on GNUstep are almost as polished as Xcode on OSX.

You can write an app in ObjC in GNUstep and recompile it in Xcode with zero lines of changes.

GNUstep is starting to expand its themeing so a GNUstep app will look native in GTK or MS windows.

Mostly, I just really like the Xcode-like development environment.

 

[ashdjones]

It looks very early-ninties. Is it themable?

 

[vertice]

i don't know. i think i'd prefer openbox or blackbox, much like i did back in the day.

 

[Mithrildor]

I have no idea what GNUstep is.

Wiki link for lazy people (I sympathize with laziness):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUstep

I wonder if I could get a virtual machine of that. I feel like I should at least try Obj-C before yelling about it, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it if it isn't as good as Qt.

wanted to port HippoDraw

HOLY... I NOW KNOW WHAT TO CALL MY NEW DRAWING APPLICATION.

PandoraDrawingApplication?

 

[ben_dash]

It looks very early-ninties. Is it themable?

Yes it is themable http://lonelymachines.org/windowmaker-themes/newer-themes/

I quite like clean, simple, themes. I find OSX too busy, and I like plain GTK, so I think the default GNUstep theme may actually work well for me; it's certainly clean and simple!

However, the main thing I like about GNUstep is Gorm, which is almost identical to Xcode on OSX, at least as far as RAD goes; it's a REALLY nice development tool.

 

[ashdjones]

I can certainly see why the UI appeals to some people. But hey, we're all different - to me it looks very dated, very RISCOS like (and the themes make it ever worse!). I'm not actually all that into desktop bling either - something like Gnome with a basic theme like Humanity suits me fine.

 

[verm71]

NeXT is a nice piece of history as it's what Steve Jobs went on to do when they kicked him out of Apple. When he came back, guess what he based OS X on?

 

[cosurgi]

no way/ GNUStep is for diehard hardcore hackers. I'll use sawfish instead.

 

[ben_dash]

no way/ GNUStep is for diehard hardcore hackers. I'll use sawfish instead.

I did use evilwm for a while...