Pc Diy Help

[skysnapper]

Don't go for the cheapo psu. People often disregard it but its one of the most important parts of the system. Remeber this is what provides the power to your system, you want a good reliable supply of power and a cheapo 350 watts will not be enough power that system.

Pay a bit extra and get an antec or enermax it can be used plus cheap ones the fans are bloody noisy and will drive you nuts.

Ist like your building a bmw and putting the Fuel system of a 1.0L Russian made Lada in it.

 

[davey g]

Changed case to this and have added this PSU. It seems to have reviewed pretty well.

So, any information about the other fans I have to buy? Also, what cables (besides the PSU power cable) do I have to buy? From what I could see I don't really need any. Do I need a heatsink and is a 500W power supply even necessary?

Edit: Have just left out the PSU for now, the 350W with the case should do fine. I can just get one later if need be. I'm ordering the PC now. Wish me luck and flame me if I've done something stupid.

 

[Vimacs]

i would get at least one fan for infront of the hdd, this things get to hot without cooling nowdays.
also i would realy go for a 6600gt... or any other 6 series nvidea card in your price range, you dont get pixel sahder 3 from ati and you also have better lighting with nv cards.

i have doubts in that psu, i mean 9gbp... good quality psus dont go under 50.
also i would sugest you to go for a p5 psu as they have more power on the 12v rail, you will need it. also i definality wont go under 500w for that system, it will get unstable for sure.

ps: that ebuyer shop seems to be pretty expensive on quality parts, dont you have anything better iver there?

 

[Shadow of Chaos]

Why not get a 6800 GT? thats what i have, get a secondhand one or something... but maybe not if you want to be sure that nothing screws up :rolleyes: its always best to buy your hardware brandnew.. i guess X800GT is your best bet then. Dont forget ATI is coming out with their R520 pretty soon so expect prices on their lower range cards to drop.

as for PSU.. i suggest enermax, i have their 600W model.. Tagan is also another good psu.

DO NOT get a cheapy PSU.. it could ruin your system, though my dad paid about £20 for his 500 watter i think, but thats his problem.. lol

 

[davey g]

THe wattage I'm getting for my system using an online PSU calculator is 249W. I really don't think I need a better PSU. Of course, I don't know how steady the 350W is but I doubt it's going to drop 100W. I can't test the Amps on the rails and such until I get my PC but I think it'll do fine.

 

[skysnapper]

THe wattage I'm getting for my system using an online PSU calculator is 249W. I really don't think I need a better PSU. Of course, I don't know how steady the 350W is but I doubt it's going to drop 100W. I can't test the Amps on the rails and such until I get my PC but I think it'll do fine.

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Its also about the quality of the power..

now what i don't get is your buying corsair memory... why not by some generic if your trying to save costs?
Like i said before your buying good quality parts but want to power it by a cheap ass psu... go figure..


When a cheap psu goes tend to take most the system with it.. had a cheap case power supply blow on me.. big spak flew out the back, almost shit myslef..i was bloody lucky a lot of others havent been...
Also i notice once i had replaced the psu my pc no longer randomly hung... part of that had been due the psu.. poor power can attribute to that a lot of the time.


A lot of other people who have had supplies blow of them have not been and generally takes the mobo, memory, cpu with it.. If you get a decent one you cna use it for years.... think of it as an investment.

Also you can't properly test a psu with normal tools you need profeesional testing tools to get proper results.


spend an extra 26 quid and get an antec the ebuyer one may say it is supplying 500 watts but its all about which rails its supplying it to.. and it won't be to the ones you'll be needing.

but to give you an idea... as its way past my bed time and too complicated to explain

go here

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/article...ly_Guide_8.html

 

[Shadow of Chaos]

yea my point exactly, cheap psu's are bad.

Also.. if you plan on overclocking you need good stuff, so dont expect to do it without a DFI mobo

 

[Hanz™]

yea my point exactly, cheap psu's are bad.

Yeah so I have heard.
Do you think I could risk it on a cheap PSU for a month or so though.

Edit: According to this (probably highly inaccurate) PSU calculator, I will only be drawing 234 Watts of power at 100% Utilisation.
And if my PSU is only 75% efficient - as the article said was found in some of the worst cases, I should still have some leeway.
The only thing I am worried about is the Total Amperage availabe on the 12V rail. Which I haven't checked...
The thing is, I find all of this PSU talk hard to believe, as I have used loads of shop-bought PC's and they always used generic Power Supplies, and never had any problems. Why is this?

 

[Rico]

Now I'm wondering how the hell I managed to overclock my 2500 to 3400 speeds for a straight year on this crappy case PSU. The Vcore was something like 1.875

 

[Hanz™]

Now I'm wondering how the hell I managed to overclock my 2500 to 3400 speeds for a straight year on this crappy case PSU. The Vcore was something like 1.875

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Hmm, I smell burning.
-- I am gonna keep my crappy PSU until I get more money, and then get a really good one. I just can't afford it right now.

 

[Fishbong]

Look, only few PCs need more than 300 Watt. Its just that powerful PSUs are more steady, whilst 300 Watt ones could have fluctuations and so forth. If you´re lucky, a 350 Watt PSU is perfect, but you can´t count on that. I myself have a 4 year old 300 Watt PSU, and it works perfect, although ihave tons of power-hunry components in my PC...

A 400 Watt one is all you need. Just get a silent one.

 

[bargainbassmentss]

i have a 600watt power supply in my system, its running a AMD athlon 3200 overclocked to 3800+, runs superbly, the higher the psu the better & more stable,

If your into gaming & having fancy L.E.D's then go for a higher PSU, also go for ram coolers, hard drive coolers & a very decent Heat-sink & fan, makes a HUGE difference, also go for a fan exhaust blower, the better the psu & the better the cooling the faster & smoother the system will run, like a car, keep it cool & maintaned & it will serve you well, neglect it & you will have problems,

I have water cooling in my system which is superb for the best gaming & cooling, i have an AMD athlong 3200 running at 3800, 3GB Ram, 3x 160 SATA Hard Drives, TV, Good graphics card, loads of PCI components & it runs as sweet as it could thanks to the 4x Coolermaster fans, coolermaster heatsink & fan, ram spreaders/coolers, hdd coolers, basically loads of power hungary devices!!!!!,


Advice i give is KEEP IT COOL, its better having too much power than not enough, also make sure you have a pukka motherboard as its that that does the work & decides on the speed your system will run!!!! :rolleyes:

 

[Klown]

i have a 600watt power supply in my system, its running a AMD athlon 3200 overclocked to 3800+, runs superbly, the higher the psu the better & more stable,

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Bullshit. If you calculate what you need and add a 10% margin your psu will run superbly.

 

[davey g]

make sure you work it our correctly & round it up not down, so if you worked out you needed 270watts you should round it up to 300watts.

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Who would work out their PC needed 270W minimum then round it down and get a 250W power supply? Jeez ...

 

[Hanz™]

I need to get a 20pin - 24pin Motherboard Power connector. Will I be able to get one of these in electronic/PC shops, or will I have to get one online?
Ebuyer for some reason doesn't sell them.

 

[Vimacs]

you dont need them for most motherboards, just plug it in leaving the lower 4 pins unconnected.

 

[Hanz™]

you dont need them for most motherboards, just plug it in leaving the lower 4 pins unconnected.

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Really can you give me a link with that bit of information, as I don't wanna do that and then F*ck up my PC. That would suck.

 

[Vimacs]

you dont need them for most motherboards, just plug it in leaving the lower 4 pins unconnected.

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Really can you give me a link with that bit of information, as I don't wanna do that and then F*ck up my PC. That would suck.

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uhm its common knowledge, but i googled a page for you, you could have done that yourself through.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...7&enterthread=y

 

[Hanz™]

Thanks!

Edit: Common knowledge!

Something which is generally known. Information which is not of a specialist or arcane nature, nor which requires specific study or training.
www.newcastle.edu.au/services/library/tutorials/infoskills/glossary.html

 

[Rico]

That said, my motherboard manual had it quite clearly written on the board itself.