Correct, apart from the fact that Pandora doesn't have U-Bootnetbsd said:
There is a button combination to enable 'peripheral boot', else it's disabled, and so it defaults to NAND.netbsd said:
Good Idea. This could also work as an Loading Status Indicator.PlopperZ said:
Starting with a monochrome Graphic like in the early days of Videogames, going over 4 colour Graphic to 8-Bit, 16 Bit maybe and at the End cool (and moving) 3D when the loading is finished. It always shows the same Logo and/or text to indicate the "Timetravel" over the years in Videogame History. I'm sure this can be done with a minimum of filesize and System ressources, I know cool Demos under 100kb from the Demo Scene with much more complicated Effects.fusion_power said:Good Idea. This could also work as an Loading Status Indicator.PlopperZ said:
Uh well... :blink:
I'd say save that for later or as an optional addition. Keep the booting procedure clean and simple. A nice, classy 2D logo and a progress bar would be fine.
But then I'm a Mac guy. We like things fast, easy and classy. :rolleyes: :lol:
In case you guys don't know how Macs are doing that boot options thing:
You can press C to boot from CD/DVD, Alt for a boot menu etc. Could be easily adapted, like "1" for "boot from SD1", "U" for boot from USB etc. Much more intuitive than a non-descriptive button, or those totally random keys like classic PC BIOS keys like F1, F8 or DEL.
Once the OS starts booting on a Mac you can hold Apple-S for single user mode or Apple-V for verbose mode (switch off graphical booting and see the boot console instead). Again easy to remember and also easy to implement.
Shortcuts like that, 1 for SD-Boot, U for USB boot, M for BIOS menu, V for switch to verbose-boot would be quite fast to implement and also very fast and easy to use.
Actually, keys like 1, U, M and V are much more complicated to implement than keys such as Start, Select, Menu and the Action and shoulder buttons. The later are connected directly to an I/O, whereas the keyboard keys are connected as a matrix (row+column), so you have to fiddle with each row and scan every column to detect pressed keys, and the processor isn't connected to the key matrix, so you have to talk I2C to another chip to mess with the lines...skab said:
The logo on openpandora.org is as official as we're going to get. We had a big logo competition a few months back and the logo on the official site hasn't changed. I guess they'll be sticking with it.Series-8 said:
It is just to do something WHILE loading so the user don't get bored. I think it takes a while to load boot- stuff from SD or NAND if this Animation is acrivated or not. So you sacrifice maybe 1/10 of a second to have something interesting to watch while the Pandora boots up (in 5 or 10 Seconds? I don't know)
That's going to be tricky, considering the 3D HW is under NDA and we only have Linux binary blobs.Series-8 said:
At the moment, the BIOS can load upto 256 color paletted GIF files. Each frame may use a different palette. If you want to a simple animation, then go ahead and post the results. If Craigix likes the result, it may end up in the final product.Series-8 said:
fusion_power said:How long can it take to load a 50kb or 100KB program into the RAM? one millisecond or 5?skab said:
128KB chunks. So the BIOS is either 128KB, 256KB, 384KB/etc.
A progress bar is kinda pointless for the amount of time it'll be loading, decompressing and checking the kernel for (a few secs max), but I suppose we could carry it over to the Kernel.
In the interest of making it easier to remember which button to hit, perhaps instead use the left shoulder button while hitting power to boot from the left SD slot, and hold right shoulder button to boot from the right SD slot.parag0n said:
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