Internet Browsers

[EvilDragon]

Yup, for lazy people like me who are too tired to move the mouse to the back button while surfing after work

 

[Tobriand]

Opera user here... banner vwersion, and thinking of buying the thing sometime when I've got money to do so - thinking about it, its probably the program IU've run most on my machine ever, bar Windows, so that kiind of makes it worth buying.

Idd... insofar as getting it to open IE only pages, you can often fix them by changing how opera identifies and refreshing; if its set to Opera, change it to IE, and vice versa - the difference can be staggering. At least on Opera 7, it is.

I have to admit I haven't actually tried Firefox, though I hear good things about it. Mainly, that'd be because I like the Opera mail client (its simple, and it doesn't do any auto-executing; what more can I ask?) and I can't be bothered to transfer all my accounts across if I actually like the thing.

 

[Twinbee]

I agree with Mozilla not liking some websites though.

Some sites that have been 'optimised for IE 6' or whatever usually don't work. I believe the Odeon Cinema UK page is one of them. Gaiaonline does too, when you create your avatar the buttons don't work because it disagrees with the javascript.

 

[kknd_cf]

I've got no problems with Firefox at all.

same here

 

[Rico]

mozilla firefox doesn't like some websites.

Show me one.

Thanks for the laugh.

Do you realise how many coders write for the 99% of users who use IE? Half the5k.org's competition entries (Mozilla doesn't support document.all in Javascript), most online banking services and music stores, any site that utilises ActiveX, a bunch of annoying sites who block non-IE sites on principle (and don't tell me to change my user-agent, because that doesn't get around the issue for anyone without technical literacy).

But I know that my hearsay evidence isn't enough. Therefore:

http://www.eddiebauer.com (drop down menus don't work)
http://www.syracuse.com (menus don't work)
http://www.rbi.org.in/rbisectiontoc.html (menu doesn't work)
http://www.w3schools.com/wap/tryit_wap.asp (vbscript)
http://www.rufuswainwright.com/ (Scrolling JS used on some pages does not work)
http://www.natwest.com/ (menus)
http://www.time2bcool.com/ger/main.asp (menus don't work)
http://www.lancenet.com.br(menus)
http://www.flipdog.com/
http://www.kpmg.com/ (screwed up)
http://www.speakeasy.net/rescompare (Clicking on javascript links doesn't fill in the table)
http://www.idahy.org/ (menu)
http://www.hsbc.com.br/english/ (menu)
http://www.rsinc.com/ (menu)
http://www.hekticmedia.com/ (menu)
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ (menu)
http://www.mk68.com/wir4/index.html (missing menu)
http://www.premiermembers.org/ (menus)
http://www.inventigo.com/ (menu missing)
https://www.csebanking.it/demo/ (looks like shit)
http://data3.jvc-europe.com/JvcCons/Products/ (no menus)
http://gis.dot.state.ga.us/Imap/TCIMS/main.html (broken form tag causes infinite resubmit in mozilla)
http://www.byzantinart.com/ (menu missing)
http://www.willas-array.com (Mozilla get served obsolete NS 4 page)
http://lt.telebasket.com/forum.asp?PageNum=1&id=12 (no menus)
http://uddi.microsoft.com/ (shitty browser sniffing gets NS 4 page when using NS 7, works if UA set as NS 6.22))
http://www.ebnews.com/ (menus)
http://www.theolympian.com/home/specialsec...earafter/audio/ (bad mime types on Real Movie files.)
https://www.egolomt.mn/eng09/IBANK.HTM (main pages says requires Internet Explorer)
http://www16.brinkster.com/designvitae/
http://www.teroconsulting.com/
http://sspa.boisestate.edu/efc/presentations.htm (more powerpoint crap)
http://www.yogatherapy.com/inservice.htm (more powerpoint crap)
http://www.fractals.com/ (backslashes in urls)
http://www.q-1.com/ (backslashes in URLs)
http://www.apexhomeinspection.com/ (garbled on mozilla)
http://www.vikayindia.com/vkframes.htm (little bit of crap in menu bar)
http://www.inventivemarine.com/ (junk on top of page)
http://www.hamsher.com/ (image doesn't load on Mozilla)
http://www.gscusa.net/ (logo dosn't appear or appears in wrong place)
http://www.ericorson.com/ (bitches about wanting IE)
http://www.sportsbusinessnews.com/ (bitches about wanting ie)
http://www.ankara-agsl.k12.tr/ (annoying "needs msie" popup.)
http://www.iespana.es/animeenthropy/ (spanish. crappy site, says it wants IE)
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Sideline/5984/ (says it has active x, don't see where it does)
http://www.vaseline.com/index.shtml (mime types are all wrong, assumes not html and may try to download the page)
http://www.bosch.no (displays nothing in Mozilla)
http://www.coldplay.com/forum.htm (junk in HTML)
http://www.odeon.co.uk/Odeon/home.html (content does not display)
http://www.danskgolf.dk (server XML error for Mozilla browsers)
http://www.seacsub.nl/nl/index2.htm (index frame is blank)
http://www.handelsbanken.se/ (blank)
http://webfx.eae.net/bombProject/bomberman.html (blank)
http://anytime.ulsterbank.com (uses obsolete liveconnect)
http://dbcalc.usps.gov/ (Content doesn't display. )
http://www.bbvtickets.com (messed up in Mozilla)
http://www.channel1049.com/streaming.html (streaming doesn't work)
http://www.halifax.es/ (trying to enter site causes error)
http://anytime.ulsterbank.com/ (blank)
http://www.miramar-bad.de (Popup doesn't work)
http://www.desjardinssecuritefinanciere.com/ (annoying popup, some menus)
http://www.hbadesign.com/ (dosn't load flash in mozilla)
http://www.documentrestoration.co.uk/ (dosn't load flash in moz)
http://www.hhphoto.com/ (bad mime types)
http://www.nisa.co.uk/ (top cut off - works ok in older NS?)
http://www.operastars.co.uk/ (javascript error)

That's sites that don't -work- in Mozilla. How about those that are indiscriminately blocked? Well...

http://www.buymusic.com/
http://www.ioclebiz.com/IOCL/index.asp
https://www.ntmof.navy.mil/ntmof/obstafs.aspx
http://windowsmedia.com/9Series/DemoCenter/ (redirects Moz to missing page)
http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platfo...e/downlevel.htm
http://www.compraonline.grupoeroski.com
http://www.agentsecure.com/
http://www.manateeedc.com/
http://www.totopools.com/
http://www.hartwell.co.uk
http://www.keepchange.de/
http://www.arkia.co.il/
https://register.btinternet.com/cgi-bin/loa.../chperspwd.html
http://www.rolfbenzstudio.cz/
http://marktheworld.com/ (order link)
http://www.letsfindus.de/
http://www.helptest.com/
http://www.arkndesign.com/check_browser.html
http://www.capraboacasa.com/
http://www.stockholmsborsen.se/
http://www.lycra.com
http://www.netcine.com/
http://home.da-us.citibank.com/da/signin/index.htm
http://www.bambolino.be/ac.html
http://www.pien.nl
http://www.msn.co.jp (tells you to "upgrade" to IE the first time it loads)
https://start.telebank.co.il/
http://www.fruit.org.il
http://www.incendiosforestales.org/manual1.htm
http://www.newlandsresourcing.co.uk/
http://www.tlcshoppe.com/
http://www.sheet80.org/
http://www.links.umoncton.ca/links/
http://zone.msn.com
http://www.diginetcard.com/
https://www.cmsbenefits.com/dcparticipant/
http://boe.wirt.k12.wv.us/wveis/wveis.htm
http://www.sandmonkey.com/
http://www.connect.remax.com.au/?page=login&help=register (bitches about Netscape)
http://www2.uoguelph.ca/ccs/web/organizati...www2/editor.cfm
http://www.ftcres.com/
http://www.canadianhp.com/english/ubt.asp
http://www.epclaw.com/login.asp
http://www.supplierconnect.com/
http://armgmembers.ismgroup.com
http://www.gmaa.asn.au/create_user_account.cfm
http://demo.safemeasures.org/
http://www.mlab.uiah.fi/~marjaana/
http://sef.mlxchange.com/
http://www.industryanswers.com/
http://www.wonderhouse.com/
http://www.proffs.nu/
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/registration.do
http://www.virgin.fr
https://www.mybenefitexpress.com/
http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/arcc/services/fbn_forms.html
http://www.nlmd.co.uk/ (denies moz)
http://www.sdgreatprofits.com/cp/RequestSummaryReport.asp (Active X)
http://barsanadham.org/ (denies moz, not that anyone wants to see this crap)

(Thanks to http://toastytech.com/good/badsitelist.html)

Pity really, since Firefox/Mozilla is just so much better that I really don't want to use IE for anything.

 

[Rico]

Yup, for lazy people like me who are too tired to move the mouse to the back button while surfing after work

Or hit Backspace

 

[EvilDragon]

Yup, for lazy people like me who are too tired to move the mouse to the back button while surfing after work

Or hit Backspace

Oh my god - I have to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard then...

 

[Skop]

Take that Akuma!

 

[kknd_cf]

Pity really, since Firefox/Mozilla is just so much better that I really don't want to use IE for anything.

same here, IE is a piece of turd....

 

[Rico]

This is the weirdest thing. I know you can get tabbed browsing versions of IE and all that jazz, but I still... can't bring myself to use them I guess the open-source factor, stability and security stops me. Still, anyone using Avant or MyIE2 still gets props in my book for not just accepting the standard, limited IE experience.

In my case I'm the internet for up to 5 hours a day (research, lack of sleep, etc.) so getting the best tool for the job really counts.

 

[kknd_cf]

This is the weirdest thing. I know you can get tabbed browsing versions of IE and all that jazz, but I still... can't bring myself to use them I guess the open-source factor, stability and security stops me. Still, anyone using Avant or MyIE2 still gets props in my book for not just accepting the standard, limited IE experience.

In my case I'm the internet for up to 5 hours a day (research, lack of sleep, etc.) so getting the best tool for the job really counts.

second that

 

[DemonStar55]

Yup, for lazy people like me who are too tired to move the mouse to the back button while surfing after work

Or hit Backspace

Oh my god - I have to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard then...

well I guess you have one hand then??


unlike some ppl Im not lazy and I just hit backspace

and alt+--> to go forward

 

[NssOne]

SlimBrowser flashpeak.com, another browser using the IE kernel. Uses tabbed browsing and built-in ad-blocking. Fully integrated with original IE settings. I haven't had problems with it since I switched aside from ad-aware shutting it down if it comes across something it doesn't like. But if it gets shut down, all I have to do is start it again and click on 'Restore sites open in last session'. It reopens all the tabs I had open last time it saved (which is does regularly and automatically). It even works after a reboot.

I know, if only MS would get a clue when it comes to licensing their software...

 

[GPJosh]

I really like Firefox. First of all, it's not IE, which gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing that Microsoft does not control the world. Secondly most sites work with Firefox, and the ones that don't might not even work in Opera. Plus, I like having all of Firefox's options. As for the screen flickering thing, maybe you should get a new computer, or check the power supply.

 

[Jeffery Mewtamer]

I currently use Mozilla(not firefox), but after reading this topic maybe its about time for me to upgrade.

 

[EvilDragon]

Yup, for lazy people like me who are too tired to move the mouse to the back button while surfing after work

Or hit Backspace

Oh my god - I have to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard then...

well I guess you have one hand then??

No...
as I told, I'm only that lazy when I come back from work and surf a bit on the internet.

I'm lying in my massage chair and have thr right hand on my mouse.
To reach the keyboard, I couldn't lie comfortable in my chair anymore... so that's why I LOOOVE mouse gestures

 

[Dante]

AOL <_< , i hate it i hate it i hate it i want it to crawl off and die in a ditch somewhere

 

[Skop]

dude, its not my power supply. its some firefox pop-up stopper that doesn't like downloads.

 

[Rico]

I'm lying in my massage chair and have the right hand on my mouse.

As for your left hand... they don't call it a 'massage chair' for nothing!

 

[PinkSpider]

Mouse gestures rock tbqfh!