Hi all, been a while since i commented in here.
I just wanted to say that no, vice is not perfect by any means, and does need fixing, i don't know how anyone could say it doesn't.
Yes if you play around with vice's settings, games will be playable, but there definitely not perfect by any means.
I was an avid fan of the c64 in the day, and i still have a real one here now. I can assure you all that vice is slower and jerkier then the real thing, and slower then other emulators on other systems for that matter.
On a side note, i tested Frodo at 800mhz recently, and i must say apart from some crackling sound, the scrolling/movement was virtually perfect(silky smooth), i tried the same games on vice and they were jerky and the movement was crap compared to frodo.
And with frodo, there was no need to skip frames like u have to in vice to get a playable game.
On vice unless u use auto(terrible) or 2(ok) frameskip, the sound is horrible, and when i have tried 1, yes the games are very smooth, but they are slower then normal and the sound breaks.
Frameskip at 2 on vice has been the best for me, but again, the movement and scrolling are certainly not perfect.
Frodo's downfall is the sound issues, and it doesn't have very good compatibility. If someone could fix the sound issues in Frodo, i would actually use that more then vice because of the awesome speed and smoothness in games, despite it being less compatible then vice.
Vice's frontend doesn't worry me, i would prefer someone improve the actual emulation speed before the frontend.
If you guys want to test this out, try playing something like Delta, Ghosts and Goblins, pretty much any scrolling game.
Compare it running on frodo then vice, then try and tell me vice is fine and doesn't need fixing.
I'm not being agro here, but there is some ignorance going on when people say caanoo the c64 emulation is fine, when it isn't.
Of course we shouldn't complain and demand, i started this topic with a friendly request that seems to off gotten out of hand and had started to cause agitation recently.
For some reason some coders seem to take offense at peoples requests, may i ask then, why is there a topic in this forum called- Cool ideas and other wishes????
Also some people have mentioned raising bountys, yet there hasn't been one coder put there hand up for it or show any kind of interest whatsoever? I would presume most coders interests have moved onto to other formats/projects which is a shame.
Qbertaddict, i look forward to your comparison videos, i think they will prove a good point.
So basically unless someone is kind enough, and has the time to improve 64 emulation on the caanoo, that's as good as were ever gonna get.
Frustrating i know, especially when u see a 32bit 3d playstation game like Ridge Racer, emulated and playing at full speed on the caanoo, yet we can't play some of our 8bit 1mhz c64 faves cause of issues.
TY, Han.
