Gp3x, Saw It On Engaget...


Viking said:
Yeah I swear I saw it on engaget...

GP3X.

I don't see how its going to compete with Pandora. =P
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/gamepar...called-the-wiz/


Maybe it´ll compete through its price or small form factor? I´d love a GP2X-like device with a real directional cross and small enough to actually serve as mp3 player. That is, if the price is right.
Imagine having a Neogeo emulating device no bigger than your cellphone!
 
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Fishbong said:
Viking said:
Yeah I swear I saw it on engaget...

GP3X.

I don't see how its going to compete with Pandora. =P
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/gamepar...called-the-wiz/


Maybe it´ll compete through its price or small form factor? I´d love a GP2X-like device with a real directional cross and small enough to actually serve as mp3 player. That is, if the price is right.
Imagine having a Neogeo emulating device no bigger than your cellphone!


How would you see anything on the screen? :rolleyes:
 
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I don't see the small screen as that big of a problem at all, especially if it's an extremely high-res screen for its size. I think if they change the screwed up controls and have WiFi, a touch screen, and set it at a low price point ($125?) to make it a sure bet over a device like Pandora or the PSP for homebrew users who don't wanna pony up; that's a device that would make money, IMO.
 
CronoTriggerfan said:
I don't see the small screen as that big of a problem at all, especially if it's an extremely high-res screen for its size. I think if they change the screwed up controls and have WiFi, a touch screen, and set it at a low price point ($125?) to make it a sure bet over a device like Pandora or the PSP for homebrew users who don't wanna pony up; that's a device that would make money, IMO.
Why WiFi?
 
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Shifty said:
CronoTriggerfan said:
I don't see the small screen as that big of a problem at all, especially if it's an extremely high-res screen for its size. I think if they change the screwed up controls and have WiFi, a touch screen, and set it at a low price point ($125?) to make it a sure bet over a device like Pandora or the PSP for homebrew users who don't wanna pony up; that's a device that would make money, IMO.
Why WiFi?

Why not? The cost of inclusion would be minimal, and it opens up a host of possibilities (VoIP, netplay for games/emulators, web browsers) for players and developers. Having a netplay feature for a game like Quake would be a potential selling point.
 
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CronoTriggerfan said:
I don't see the small screen as that big of a problem at all, especially if it's an extremely high-res screen for its size. I think if they change the screwed up controls and have WiFi, a touch screen, and set it at a low price point ($125?) to make it a sure bet over a device like Pandora or the PSP for homebrew users who don't wanna pony up; that's a device that would make money, IMO.
No, it would be a device that loses money.

Companies like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo sell their consoles and systems at a loss as they make up the money via the sales of software.

GPH produces no software and hence makes its profits from hardware sales. Thus, I don't think they can afford a crippling price like that just because the US economy is terrible. I'd find it to be far to cheap at even £100 personally myself and that is approximately $180? I think you need to be a bit more realistic with your price point speculations as GPH cannot be expected to sell at a loss and lose all its' money.
 
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Peter R said:
CronoTriggerfan said:
I don't see the small screen as that big of a problem at all, especially if it's an extremely high-res screen for its size. I think if they change the screwed up controls and have WiFi, a touch screen, and set it at a low price point ($125?) to make it a sure bet over a device like Pandora or the PSP for homebrew users who don't wanna pony up; that's a device that would make money, IMO.
No, it would be a device that loses money.

Companies like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo sell their consoles and systems at a loss as they make up the money via the sales of software.

GPH produces no software and hence makes its profits from hardware sales. Thus, I don't think they can afford a crippling price like that just because the US economy is terrible. I'd find it to be far to cheap at even £100 personally myself and that is approximately $180? I think you need to be a bit more realistic with your price point speculations as GPH cannot be expected to sell at a loss and lose all its' money.

You should brush up on your research there, buddy. Some home consoles sell at a loss due to the cost of producing high-powered processors, GPUs, etc., but handhelds are sold for profit. Hell, Nintendo and Microsoft now sell 360s and Wiis for a profit. Given the 4:3 aspect ratio screen, probably less-than-perfect build quality, and an inexpensive SoC at the core, the device would no doubt sell for a profit, and they'd need to price it competitively with the onset of PSP/DS homebrew, as well as Pandora.

You're also assuming the United States would be their biggest consumer-base, which is most likely incorrect; GPH and GP have always traditionally marketed to European and Asian nations, with the US being a small pony show in the corner of the rodeo.

Your analysis of our economy here is pretty uninformed as well. I live in Michigan, the state with the largest unemployment rate and worst-off economy in the country, and it's hardly as if people aren't buying luxury items at high rates. Don't believe everything the socialists over at The Times tell you about America, 'cause most of it is shit anyways.
 
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Is it just me or was that little rant in no way connected to the post previous to it?
 
Good job! That's the 3rd "groundbreaking" thread on this device. Just lock it.
 
CronoTriggerfan said:
You should brush up on your research there, buddy. Some home consoles sell at a loss due to the cost of producing high-powered processors, GPUs, etc., but handhelds are sold for profit. Hell, Nintendo and Microsoft now sell 360s and Wiis for a profit. Given the 4:3 aspect ratio screen, probably less-than-perfect build quality, and an inexpensive SoC at the core, the device would no doubt sell for a profit, and they'd need to price it competitively with the onset of PSP/DS homebrew, as well as Pandora.
If the handheld is using state of the art technology aswell, it will also likely have to sell at a loss until the technology that is used in it becomes cheaper to produce.
CronoTriggerfan said:
You're also assuming the United States would be their biggest consumer-base, which is most likely incorrect; GPH and GP have always traditionally marketed to European and Asian nations, with the US being a small pony show in the corner of the rodeo.
I don't once make that assumption and , as far a I know, I am far more knowledable about GP/GPH's past and where they sell than you as I have been part of this community for a relatively large amount of time.
CronoTriggerfan said:
Your analysis of our economy here is pretty uninformed as well. I live in Michigan, the state with the largest unemployment rate and worst-off economy in the country, and it's hardly as if people aren't buying luxury items at high rates. Don't believe everything the socialists over at The Times tell you about America, 'cause most of it is shit anyways.
I can judge just how well your economy is doing from the fact that the dollar is extremely low to the pound and it's that fact I was making referance to in my previous post.
 
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Orkie said:
Is it just me or was that little rant in no way connected to the post previous to it?




Yes, it is just you.
 
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Peter R said:
CronoTriggerfan said:
You should brush up on your research there, buddy. Some home consoles sell at a loss due to the cost of producing high-powered processors, GPUs, etc., but handhelds are sold for profit. Hell, Nintendo and Microsoft now sell 360s and Wiis for a profit. Given the 4:3 aspect ratio screen, probably less-than-perfect build quality, and an inexpensive SoC at the core, the device would no doubt sell for a profit, and they'd need to price it competitively with the onset of PSP/DS homebrew, as well as Pandora.
If the handheld is using state of the art technology aswell, it will also likely have to sell at a loss until the technology that is used in it becomes cheaper to produce.
CronoTriggerfan said:
You're also assuming the United States would be their biggest consumer-base, which is most likely incorrect; GPH and GP have always traditionally marketed to European and Asian nations, with the US being a small pony show in the corner of the rodeo.
I don't once make that assumption and , as far a I know, I am far more knowledable about GP/GPH's past and where they sell than you as I have been part of this community for a relatively large amount of time.
If you even read my first post, you'd understand that the device GPH is speculating is not in any way "state of the art", it runs on a MagicEyes Pollux SoC with an ARM9 processor designed for low-end PMPs and GPS units. They could easily make a profit at under $180, and would need to due to the competitive nature of the handheld market today.

As for the latter statement, I owned a GP32, a GP2x, and have been a follower of a number of homebrew communities for years, don't lecture me on GP/GPH knowledge, because it's found in spades at all the places I've been involved with. Oh, and for your economic assumption... I give up. Take any basic college - excuse me - "uni" course on the subject and you'll learn there are distinct pros and cons to weak/strong currencies, and that versatile economies based on GNP and GDP are far better measures of economic well-being than any rate of exchange could ever be.
 
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