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[CyruzDraxs]

The Moblin GUI would need a bit of reworking before it could work on the Pandora, as it expects a minimum resolution of 1024x600, so the tab buttons at the top would overlap the system tray and the tab slides would extend past the bottom of the screen. It'd be a great alternative OS if someone had the time to rework the various issues it has with non-netbook environments.

 

[dsraa]

I don't like moblin. it over simplifies things extremely.

You know....that could've been said a different way....

Moblin I do not like, it extremely over simplifies things.


that's much better sounding...


DSR

 

[dflemstr]

I don't like moblin. it over simplifies things extremely.

Moblin I do not like, it extremely over simplifies things.

Or to use the much more well-known "English language":
I do not like Moblin for the reason that it oversimplifies certain things extremely.

Yes, sue me for making this post

And I wouldn't compare Ubuntu to Moblin; I wouldn't dislike Ubuntu as much if it had been designed by competent developers. As Ubuntu is now, it contains too many pitfalls and shortcuts that it's a complete mess. Moblin is at least well-designed...

 

[sebt3]

this is a good news
How's your projet ?

 

[efegea]

How's your projet ?

Reworking it from scratch with a lot of new ideas

Although what worries me is that perhaps the new Pangea will look a bit like a Moblin clone. But I can't think of any way to improve Moblin's layout. If somebody has any suggestion, it'll be welcome But they will be similar only on the looks (i.e, thumbnails instead of icons-customizable-, animations..), but still not a 1:1 clone.

Full skinning and customization will still be there, but improved And the search-as-you-type will also be improved!

I have a lot of interesting ideas and made a mockup of the new interface that looks very stylish. I won't upload it, I want to mantain it as a secret

 

[God Ginrai]

And I wouldn't compare Ubuntu to Moblin; I wouldn't dislike Ubuntu as much if it had been designed by competent developers. As Ubuntu is now, it contains too many pitfalls and shortcuts that it's a complete mess. Moblin is at least well-designed...

True. However, I wasn't meaning to compare the distros themselves, merely compare the way PoisonedV felt about Moblin to the way I felt about Ubuntu.

How's your projet ?

Reworking it from scratch with a lot of new ideas

Although what worries me is that perhaps the new Pangea will look a bit like a Moblin clone. But I can't think of any way to improve Moblin's layout. If somebody has any suggestion, it'll be welcome But they will be similar only on the looks (i.e, thumbnails instead of icons-customizable-, animations..), but still not a 1:1 clone.

Full skinning and customization will still be there, but improved :"] And the search-as-you-type will also be improved!

I have a lot of interesting ideas and made a mockup of the new interface that looks very stylish. I won't upload it, I want to mantain it as a secret [/quote]Awesome. I'm looking forward to Pangea. I have a lot of ideas floating around in my head about such things. Do you have an IM? or do you frequent IRC? I could always just send you pms, if need be.

-God Ginrai

 

[hells_dark]

So i'm looking forward to pangea too

 

[sebt3]

Although what worries me is that perhaps the new Pangea will look a bit like a Moblin clone.

Dont worry, they have thinked their interface. And I realy think it's a good UI with a good usability on touch screen.
So go ahead (imho)

If somebody has any suggestion, it'll be welcome

I'm sure you're on it, but to be sure :
- ability to add new "tabs" (ie : one for games, one for emu )
- Using telephaty/empathy in the contact tab (but I'm not sure you'll do this)

I have a lot of interesting ideas and made a mockup of the new interface that looks very stylish. I won't upload it, I want to mantain it as a secret

good

 

[efegea]

Awesome. I'm looking forward to Pangea. I have a lot of ideas floating around in my head about such things. Do you have an IM? or do you frequent IRC? I could always just send you pms, if need be.

-God Ginrai

Just pm me

 

[dflemstr]

Awesome. I'm looking forward to Pangea. I have a lot of ideas floating around in my head about such things. Do you have an IM? or do you frequent IRC? I could always just send you pms, if need be.

-God Ginrai

Just pm me :"] [/quote]Please consider making a new topic about this. I'd have something to add, too.
And please remember while redesigning the application that there already are thousands of frameworks ready to use for you so you shouldn't have to duplicate any work. Plasma is available for widgets (Look at Lancelot to see how plasmoids can be embedded). You could even make most of your app as a plasmoid with smart design choices. libnotify is available for notifications. The KDE .desktop specification for plugins is available, so you don't have to come up with new plugin standards. So are the Python-Qt frameworks, so you don't have to write interpreters for plugin scripts...
etc.

 

[God Ginrai]

Awesome. I'm looking forward to Pangea. I have a lot of ideas floating around in my head about such things. Do you have an IM? or do you frequent IRC? I could always just send you pms, if need be.

-God Ginrai

Just pm me


I'll pm you when I get all the features that are bouncing around in my mind down in text.

-God Ginrai

 

[senorgomez]

-God Ginrai

I hate that step :lol:

 

[Eversmile]

Think about it this way. Even if you did have Firefox on it, you wouldn't get to it just by pressing that Internet tab. That's their browser, that tab would just be a waste of space if you always used Firefox. See my point? Eyecandy. Anyways, I never said that someone can't port it. I'm not gonna push someone away from porting it. I'm simply stating that I don't believe there to be any benefit from using it. It's not going to get us the mainstream crowd any more than ubuntu would.

If it's open source, like Mazza said, it could be modded/coded/whatevered in. If not, then some harder mods. If again not, yeah, unless the browser is awesome, it'd be iffy. IT DOES look nice and organised though, and android certainly looks inviting for mainstreamers too.

So first someone would have to write all the code to change the architecture. (This includes the stuff sebt3 mentioned"] Then they would have to write even more code to mod it to get rid of the locked-in stuff. See how much work that is?

Yes, it looks nice and organized, but so does efegea's menu replacement. Have you seen it yet?

EDIT: Not to mention, efegea has already noted that his will be very extensible, allowing it to be changed and edited by the user in many ways.

-God Ginrai[/quote]Well, my only quarrel with it was possibly not having firefox, but it has a modded UI one anyway. If that could be ported (seeming impossible anyway) it would've been nice. It's not just eye candy like you said. However, I will look up efegea! It sounds good.

I don't like moblin. it over simplifies things extremely.

You know....that could've been said a different way....

Moblin I do not like, it extremely over simplifies things.

that's much better sounding...:"]

DSR[/quote]Oh yeah that makes tons of sense!

No. Haha. In no way does that sound better, it's a hell of a lot harder to understand. Why did you correct him anyway, when obviously it wasn't required?

 

[Raz]

A bit off-topic, but you can switch desktop environments via terminal. Like one moment you have E17, but then you want GMenu or Pangea


On-topic... The thing about the Pandora is, anyone can develop for it. There's definetly a target for people wanting to use Moblin, and maybe someone will port it. Maybe not. If it is made, people who don't like it can just stick with whatever

 

[ashdjones]

Okay so Moblin shows thumbnails of my recently used media files?

So if I've been watching a load of porn (for example) the screen will be full of exposed body parts? Hmmm.

 

[Trevsweb]

the screen will be full of exposed body parts? Hmmm.

Google chrome/webkit is pushing that feature too. XD

 

[ashdjones]

Okay so Moblin shows thumbnails of my recently used media files?

So if I've been watching a load of porn (for example"] the screen will be full of exposed body parts? Hmmm.

Google chrome/webkit is pushing that feature too. XD[/quote]I like to make use of Google Chrome's incognito mode - works a charm!

 

[dflemstr]

Okay so Moblin shows thumbnails of my recently used media files?

So if I've been watching a load of porn (for example"] the screen will be full of exposed body parts? Hmmm.[/quote]Google chrome/webkit is pushing that feature too. XD

And so is Firefox, Konqueror, Safari and Opera... Opera already has it btw, and was the first to have it. The feature isn't part of WebKit at all, btw.
Also, don't associate Chrome with WebKit; Chrome didn't create WebKit, it's the other way around, remember that. There are loads of browsers out there that use WebKit, the newest of which is Arora.

 

[anchuu]

I have to admit Moblin looks amazing. It seems to have both the functionality and professional look many other distributions lack of (in my humble opinion). I'd say an interface like this could score Pandora some serious points, at especially outside out the "indie OSS handheld" niche.

 

[dflemstr]

. I'd say an interface like this could score Pandora some serious points, at especially outside out the "indie OSS handheld" niche.

...but it would deprecate a lot that's been going on in this community such as menus and the like... And our apps wouldn't integrate that well.
Still, it's a very interesting system, especially if it has some kind of packaging system that 1. supports multiple architectures 2. is compatible with the Pandora model where you don't really have any permanent storage media (aka "packages" have to be "uninstalled" if their installation folder is missing, since SD cards are removable), which means that we (the Pandora community) could adopt and adapt the system and profit from all the other million Moblin users' contributions out there.

Anyone feel he/she's up to making a PXML compatibility system for Moblin?