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Interesting how the ridiculous estimate doesn't seem as ridiculous anymore.

Always the same few people who support Craig 100% doing their best to discredit me, not sure where you guys get the "baseless claims" statement from. Was it this thread where I talk to a assembly house CEO, where I discussed Pandora and he telling me "expect to see it in 2011" for all 4k...

Well if it's money you don't have, you shouldn't have taken personally responsibility then, you have yourself to blame if you don't have the proper legal paperwork regarding your company with Craigs. I betting you got super excited when you saw over a million US dollars flow in as pre-orders...

Yes we all can read Wikpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_mark#Mutual_recognition_of_conformity_assessment Fact that have a device that conforms to "recognition of conformity" (i.e. CE mark) doesn't mean it covers all the requirements needed to be sold in that country, as there could be...

CE mark = Canada & EU, when I say import into USA I'm referencing to FCC, not CE.

Hi Aninhmer, FCC compliance in this particular case, using the un-certified FCC 802.11 module that the Pandora has, it will end up needing a FCC ID to be legal in the USA. see post -->...

yes yes, you guys absolutely *believe* it would pass FCC certification... but the fact it hasn't gone though the "FCC certification" doesn't mean it automatically will! In your country sure... But if you gave a call to the FCC asking if it's OK to import the Pandora device (that as a RF...

LOL, though you got to admit your current status page at http://www.openpandora.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=98&Itemid=13&lang=en where is says "testing for FCC/CE compliance" is misleading as it says it status is 'Done'. When in fact no FCC certification has been actually...

Curious, if you haven't taken pre-orders yet for the IControlPad, why not shelf it for the time being and just worry about the existing pre-paid orders of Pandoras? I guess it be one thing if Pandora building was so slow that you guys have cycles to work on this project instead.

Created poll as I wonder many other people think about this. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/icontrolpad-heads-into-production-support-for-other-phones-prom/#disqus_thread This is the first I've read about Craig and Michael Weston other current project, honestly I feel such a project would...

Lumbergh

Guess I missed a threads talking this, but last I remember reading was the NUB company that made your original 'custom nubs' went out of business, so I assume then you guys found a suitable replacement company?

Show them this then http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner

Shipping at what rate though? When you sprinkle few hundred this week, few hundred next week, etc.. you make your customers worry at the end of the queue. Along with the fact your still short (on hand) of certain parts for the 4000 units, i.e. boards/cases.

So you expect people who waited for years with broken promises, then finally give up for reason x, then just to walk away and not complain when they leave? In the business world customers will always be vocal when upset, keep dreaming.

Chairman_Now, I think it's pretty obvious that at least one Pandora team member knows how many units they have made/given to others for shipping. They simply don't want to disclose this information to other team-members and/or the community forums as it would be viewed by others as negative thing.

If you looked at the thread I linked, it's was proven that the company making the Pandora device, and not Texas Instrument that is responsible. Also OpenPandora is aware of it, i.e. from MWeston has said this

Not sure why the original thread was locked but checking the SD Association list, I still don't see "OpenPandora Ltd." as a member. I know they update the list fairly quickly, so I don't think it's due too just waiting for the list to be updated. We know the Pandora doesn't have an FCC due to...

The 2011 was for shipping all 4,000 Pandoras, just not the first one :) The 2011 number that I mentioned on is off since I didn't have all the details to pass on, but curious how fast are they making them? As I see people posting about not getting their shipping notice, and they say they are...

So Torpor, it's been about what 8 weeks now, what happened to your conservative estimate of 5 weeks for all of the 4000 Pandora's being done?