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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    ok, unfortunately, the level of expertise required to create such machines, using GPUs / accelerated graphics chips, is beyond the average small hardware design team's capabilities. not to mention the fact that these CPUs are Intel CPUs, who will demand NDAs be signed. plus, such products...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/am1808.html ... don't freak out - the idea of having a 375mhz ARM9 computer, i mean.. it'd be great an low-cost 'an'all... but that's _not_ why i'm looking at it: i'm looking at it because it's only approx $USD 9 in 1k volumes and it has a 3gb/sec...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    *click*. my mistake. michelle actually said "PATA" and i thought that it was an advancement on SATA, whereas, duhh, of course, PATA is the old, familiar 40-pin ATA interface. that's why she said that the marvell 8051-compatible CPU, the DS80C411, with oodles of GPIO pins could be used (not...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    this is all i've been able to find so far: http://www.ebv.com/en/products/categories/details/product/s5pc100.html go to the "pricing" tab. it keeps changing slightly: they're now at $EUR 14.20 which comes out at around $USD 19 (hmmm, and i thought their prices were in $USD whoops, glad i...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    someone else on another list recommended this, from genesys logic: http://www.genesyslogic.com/_en/product_01_1.php?id=18 - you might find it's easier (and cheaper, for sure) to use USB-to-SATA or maybe (look on their site there are other products) USB-to-ATA/ATAPI l.
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    ahhaaaaa, gooooood stuuuff. quick search, people are talking about dev kits with S5PC100/110 supporting CF/ATA; overview datasheet on iMX51 says ATA-6. thank you. i'd say that one's pretty much solved.
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    yehh, simply looking at the numbers i kinda worked that out - not at the level of detail you're aware of - more in the "fuzzy" kind of way which you've probably already noticed :) so, the alternative is PCIe PHY (TI XIO1100) followed by PCI-e to SATA or PCI-e to PCI and PCI to SATA. crazed...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    ouaah, thank you exophase - very enlightening, and quite important information. i've added the iMX51 to the survey: i'll make sure that this kind of info goes into the "report" that people get at the end. pandorra mentioned that yes, the documenting of the process is itself a product: i'll...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    hi exophase, i'm very pleased to stand corrected. i knew there was an announcement of _some_ freescale cpu three weeks ago (quietly) i just couldn't remember which one it was. ok, so.... let's look this up...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    polossatik, these are great comments. lots of things to look up. i particularly wanted to come back to the SATA thing, because as i mentioned in another post this evening, finding SATA PHY ICs seems to be a total BITCH. atmel's offerings have been bought by another company, who have then...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    no, these are all good questions. the summary is: this is _not_ a "we dictate what you will get" thing: the intention is for it to be a _multi_ phase project, where people first get in and find out what everyone else wants, too, and under what conditions; _then_ the 2nd phase is "let's go do...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    bleeegh, noo, i hadn't forgotten. i have erased freescale from my memory banks, due to them being desperate oil-slicked barrel-scrabblers. translation: freescale don't put enough money into the design and implementation of their CPUs; they chase after customers who will pay lots of money; they...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    yep, that's us :) the price in 20k volumes is $102. that $65 laptop is actually fantastic, but there's a _reason_ why it's $65. the first is that it's a truly dreadful ARM9 which will eat your mind. the second is that the 800x480 LCD will be connected directly to the TTL interface on the...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    hi folks, thank you to everyone who's posted, i was caught a little by surprise at the enthusiasm which is a good sign. so, let me go over things i've seen: 1) a trouble-maker who thinks that the openpandora is a scam. greaat! healthy scepticism. it's why i'm a) contacting other highly...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    thank you for everyone's feedback so far - what i'm planning to do is set up a "survey" site which has the "whaddyawant" bit, records the answers, and, along the way, advises of the cost. at the end will be "you want X! so do N miiillion squillion other people!" this is crucial crucial...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    yes i am. good idea. am marginally concerned about the speed and capabilities of the nanonote being 3-10 times less than a netbook, but yes, you're right, i should contact them. thank you. yes i most definitely will contact them. again, it's not up to _me_ to decide what people want...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    $500 isn't "low cost" :) when you consider that the GPL-violating CT-PC89E has a BOM under _one hundred_ dollars in 20k volumes, $500 is just too much. likewise, the Lenovo Skylight: that's rumoured to be priced around $500 as well. But, yes: if people want to pay $500 for an 8.9in tablet...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    yes i'm interested. ok, regarding battery: the nice thing about ARM cpus is that because they're so low power, the lesson of the CT-PC89E shows us that even as little as a 60 gram 2100mAh battery can get you three hours continuous use! so if you use a "standard" netbook battery, which is...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    yyyep, that's me. and that's the GPL-violating Chitech, with the otherwise absolutely brilliant CT-PC89E. it was the GPL violation which was the final straw, for me, and i decided to ask around to see if anyone else thought that doing an "openpandora-esque project to get an ARM netbook made...
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    Help Needed Replicating Success Of Openpandora For A Netbook/laptop

    *thumbs-up*. preeecisely! now try telling that to john lewis. again: the success of the openpandora is because it was what some intelligent but non-mass-market group of people _really_ wanted. and... oh, i have to get permission from rms before i can tell you the rest. lots going on.
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