So where are we with the Pyra--really? (August 2025 Query)


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So it seems like we've gone more months without any real updates on where we are with the Pyra...so I'll ask...where are we? What's been happening? (And for those of us that placed our orders in 2020--where are we in the queue?)
 
According to the page where we can check our status, mine just says "Sorry, but either the order number you entered is not correct - or your Pyra is not yet ready to be shipped."

That's what it's said since the day I placed my order. So I'm wondering where we are. Updates seem to be scarce, and instead of pestering EvilDragon via PM I figured I'd open it up to anyone who knows what's up.
 
I'm not involved in the Pyra, ED business or dragonbox.de or anything. But...

If this page is up to date (5/2/2016), that might mean less than 500 Pyras have shipped to first week preorderers.
There were roughly one thousand preorders in 2016. If you ordered in 2020 you are as good as the last preorderer. You should get your Pyra when everyone has had a chance to get theirs.
I don't know when that is because I don't know the pace of Pyra delivery, and because I wouldn't think that pace needs to stay constant, even if I knew it.
Some of that pace depends on ED and dragonbox.de circumstances, but some also on how quick people in the queue react to their offers to finalize the order (pay the rest , updated delivery address, etc.).

If you can't wait so long you might get lucky with someone sometimes offering to sell one Pyra secondhand, and that's naturally out of queue order.

If you want your money back, you may try to ask ED for it. (independently of whether you got a 2nd hand Pyra). Not sure how it works, or even what is financially better for him. I've heard he loses money with every Pyra sale, and
I'm not sure the immobilised capital reaches for all Pyra preorders or he should buy more materials/components to built the last ones, so I don't really know
whether ED is better off with selling Pyras or getting preorders cancelled, or up to which point ...
I suppose the best financially for ED is those people who paid their preorder, end up not finally buying their pyra but they don't ask for their money back.
I can imagine it's worse for him if he has to give preorder money back than when he finally sells a Pyra even at a loss, but I'm not even sure about that.
Maybe giving money back is less expensive in money and time than managing to build all thousand Pyras ? Or maybe at some point in time it might become so ?
I don't know about expenses, costs, depreciation, any interest, component availability at different times, stocks...

I understand it's slow, and it's hard to understand why it's so slow or why it's still going on if it's so slow, but I guess it's as simple as because ED and his preorderers accept it like it is.
Many preorders, crowdfoundings and similar projects fail. Others are scams (never really intended to deliver). Few are delivered on time, on budget, with more profits than expected, honestly and to full satisfaction of all involved.
Turns out there're many intermediate degrees between failure and instant undisputable success.
The fact that deliveries keep dripping out means it's not a failure, the fact that there are unfullfilled preorders after 9 years means it's not a terrific success. I think most of us don't care to label it any way.

So what's the status ?
Maybe there's no status.
(I hear statics are bad for electronics)
 
Using the delivery thread and the preorder thread for this info. The pyra started shipping beginning of 2021. Its been 57 months, I'll round up to 60, One of the latest deliveries is said to have preordered on May 2nd, I'll assume that is preorder #400. So on average that is about 7 pyras a month since 2021.

From the preorder data, my own preordering in Oct 2016 is around #931, rounded down to #900. So around 500 pyras to go, at 7 a month, will be about 70 months or another ~6 years until I get my pyra.in 2031.

I checked the discord before looking at this, and on the german channel ED was probably happy to say that 40 preorders went out in June 2025. But unless there is an update on a new production process, I think the average of 7 pyras, certainly under 10, a month is probably more realistic.
 
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