Office Ninja

[Mr.Gonzo]

So, we had this meeting at work where our power tripping bosses babled about bad behavior ( Even though they said that ever since we got recruited work quality got a whole lot better ).
And one of the thing they mentionned was the usage of internet at work.
Part of the stuff they said kinda sounded like BS to wake fear on our Ninja surfing asses.
Like: Saying that they could see us browse because of the office proxy.

Can they really know individually who is browsing where and at what time?

And if they can, What can i do to ninja their asses?
You know, Slip under the radar like a lubed up stealth bomber.

 

[quote]

I'm no expert on the matter, but I don't think an 'Office Proxy' would give them view of which computer visites which websites.
Do your work computers have any kind of surveillance client on them? That's the only way I can think they can see what you're doing. Screen monitoring software is used by quite a few businesses.

...or your boss is bullshitting. Bosses tend to do a lot of that.


Edit: If you want to be on the safe side, and if you can get .exe access on your work PC, I suggest you look into Tor.

 

[Javacat]

Depending on the equipment/software they have, they can. I do it at for one of my clients. I can get nice reports of what porn people have been looking at, when and for how long

Check if your browsers have been setup with any internal proxy addresses and have a lil nosey where the internet comes into your office and is connected to your network, to see if you can see the net connection going through any suspicious boxes. If you have neither, chances are your bosses aren't able to see what you are up to and they are either BS'ing or know bugger all about computers.

 

[Mr.Gonzo]

@Pandora: Thanks i'll check that software out when i'm at home.

@Javacat: How can i check all that? Im far from a tech head, see.

 

[Javacat]

I wrote the stuff below and then came up with another idea, which may be easier. Bring up a dos prompt (go onto the Start menu and click Run, then type CMD and press Ok). Enter ipconfig and press enter. It should list a load of crap. Look for the entry which says Default Gateway. Put whatever IP it shows for that entry into the address bar of whatever browser you use. You should get some login screen for something. Google whatever brand it shows, or let us know on here and we can have a lookse

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To check if your browser has been setup with a proxy, and assuming you're using Internet Explorer, do the following:
Go onto the Tools menu
Select Internet Options
Click on the Connections tab
Press the Lan Settings button
You should then see a bit that says "Proxy server". If one has been set then the tick box will be selected and the Address text box will have something in it. The tick box and the text box will probably be grayed out if they have been set, so you can't change them.


For checking for some actual hardware, you'll need to look around all the network kit to see what's installed. I can't say what sort of box to look for, but it'll probably be connected to some cable coming out of something that isn't a standard RJ45 network socket, and there may be one of two boxes connected to each other before going into the switch, or it could be going straight into your server. If you can get the brands/models of any boxes it goes through then we could have a nosy to see if any of it can track websites.

 

[Mr.Gonzo]

I wrote the stuff below and then came up with another idea, which may be easier. Bring up a dos prompt (go onto the Start menu and click Run, then type CMD and press Ok). Enter ipconfig and press enter. It should list a load of crap. Look for the entry which says Default Gateway. Put whatever IP it shows for that entry into the address bar of whatever browser you use. You should get some login screen for something. Google whatever brand it shows, or let us know on here and we can have a lookse

Hmm, weird there's no IP at all under Default gateway. Maybe they're masking it somehow.

To check if your browser has been setup with a proxy, and assuming you're using Internet Explorer, do the following:
Go onto the Tools menu
Select Internet Options
Click on the Connections tab
Press the Lan Settings button
You should then see a bit that says "Proxy server". If one has been set then the tick box will be selected and the Address text box will have something in it. The tick box and the text box will probably be grayed out if they have been set, so you can't change them.

That i already checked, they are using one but it's untickable. But once unticked browsing becomes a thing of the past. ( As if it would cut the connexion ).

For checking for some actual hardware, you'll need to look around all the network kit to see what's installed. I can't say what sort of box to look for, but it'll probably be connected to some cable coming out of something that isn't a standard RJ45 network socket, and there may be one of two boxes connected to each other before going into the switch, or it could be going straight into your server. If you can get the brands/models of any boxes it goes through then we could have a nosy to see if any of it can track websites.

shiet, the hardware is in a closed room.
But every thursday somebody has to volunteer to clean up some stuff in the office... and the cleaning equipement is right in there. Ninnnjaaaaaa

 

[WizardStan]

Hmm, weird there's no IP at all under Default gateway. Maybe they're masking it somehow.

That won't make a difference. Fact is that your computer is connected to a router, and that router, as part of it's routing duties, can record every single packet that goes through it. Probably only records http requests, or perhaps makes note of certain key phrases, but when you're going through a network you don't control, assume you're being watched. The tech guy at my office has a tool that will read from and inject messages into an IRC connection. You're sitting there, chatting away, and then "GET BACK TO WORK" appears in your terminal, because he CAN! Not that I know anyone who chats on IRC while at work. >.>

 

[Javacat]

^^ sounds like they more than likely are watching what you're up to :/ You may be able to get around it somehow, with some fiddling or by giving tor a go. Could be more trouble than it's worth and they may be able to see you trying to get around it, which could get you in more trouble than actually being caught looking at the goat porn.

 

[Mr B]

Could they do it? Yeah. They could quite easily see what computer has what traffic originating from it, and where it goes. You wanna smootch under the radar? Use a RDP client and hook up to your home computer, and brows from it. Or VNC... Anything goes really.All they will see then is a encrypted connection to your home computer... Of course. That to can get you fired, if they think you've been stealing there intellectual property, or other things that you could upload to your home. I'd simply defend my self with a "i think better when i read." and stray away from porn... Your not really benefiting from watching porn at work anyway. Well, unless your directing porns, then you might get ideas for a sequel to that crappy porn you recorded last week. But then that is a reasonable argument to use to stay on the net looking for porn so that would hardly be an issue...

You could also use any number of means to sneak under the radar. The two i suggested is simply the one i use, altho i use it to check my email, and update myself during workhours, and a alternative software to do the same suggested to me numerous times. But all the ways you could sneak under the radar has one thing in common. If they look for suspicious behavior, you will be spotted, faster then if browsing for porn. Find a valid reason that they agree with, and stick to it. Claim you have email you need to refer to at home, or something similar. That way when they ask, you've been going through emails, and notes. Ever worked from home? Then you got notes in txt's on your home computer you need to look in to from time to time. Be creative.
B!

 

[Username]

My school uses that type of software to see the screens at any given moment. It could be done, but the only way to be certain is to play interracial porno on a coworker's computer and see if they respond.

 

[Sphinxter]

They know every url you click on and the address that clicked it, yes.

 

[Nintendo]

http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?/topic/32101-happy-birthday/page__st__225

 

[fischju2000]

It really is more trouble than it's worth. And if your boss is bragging about it, he might be extra not happy that somebody has went round the security they have in place. You could get a 3G stick or tether if you're only your own computer - If it's a computer they own, they could even have VNC software installed on it to watch your screen.

 

[Sphinxter]

Site of my previous contract the smoke detector looking things scattered about were for wireless, power up an adapter and security appeared.

 

[Titcher]

Site of my previous contract the smoke detector looking things scattered about were for wireless, power up an adapter and security appeared.

As in a wifi adapter? This would imply they were themselves using wifi, but in which case, they'd detect their own hardware. Care to share any more details?

 

[Mr.Gonzo]

ahah why does everyone think i want to check pr0n at w3rk?

They just don't want us to browse non work related stuff during work hours.

 

[gruso]

I use a USB 3G modem for personal browsing at work. I bought it for Pandora. Gotta use it for something.

 

[klikklak]

Just get a proper cellphone or a MID for browsing over 3G.

 

[Mr.Gonzo]

If i use tor i imagine they will still see the activity from my computer, just not what i am checking right?
Same if i use one of those proxy sites?

I think i'm just going to leave this job, i'm underpaid and doing twice as much work than my past office jobs.
And they almost monitor at what rate you poop and deduct the cash in advance from your hours under "shit time".



and on top of that i can't even watch donkey pr0n.
F*ck this job.

 

[WizardStan]

If i use tor i imagine they will still see the activity from my computer, just not what i am checking right?
Same if i use one of those proxy sites?

Even if you connect to a proxy site, you still need to connect through your employers network, and anything that goes through their network they can see. The only way around it is to either encrypt your traffic, or use a different method of getting onto the internet that doesn't use their network.