Calling someone an idiot is nothing to complain?
And if I say Ed hast debts at his bank thats something to complain?
???
Nice to hear.
You know I only called you an idiot because you said it before? Its so.
Now you stopped and also I will not say it again.
Thank you.
Sure... Ed makes it better.. all the time!
After every post from him something is other than before. He wants to calculate developementcosts twice... yes sure why not!
Lets calculate profit twice! Why not! You would pay even 1000Euro for a Pyra! He can do what he wants!
And the fact...
Uh.. huh..
I have a good working company since many years.
Ed has debts at his bank and no money.
But yes.. Im the Idiot. Sure.
Edit: Mind your language, please - Binky
Ed.. dont drive me crazy!
THE DEVELOPEMENT COSTS YOU ALREADY CALCULATED IN !!!!
Its the very first point in your calculation!
Now you want them to calculate a second time! Why the hell???
And I never said that you should not sell yourself! You just thought that! I dont know why.
Even in...
Ok...
You never said that you need the higher profit you make with the "resellerprice" if you sell to customers.
I thought your calculation is more or less complete!
You also never said that you want to sell at least the half of Pyras from your own shop.
You were just complaining about...
No, we dont sell for MSRP. We dont even have a MSRP. We calculate our prices at your own.
If you would read my posts it would be easier.
But thanks for the stupid. The fact that you dont understand what Im writing makes you stupid little Stan.
I understood what you wrote. Didnt you read my post? ;-)
Again: If you calculate your price with the discount you later give, its okay!
If you raise prices because of others its not!
For example: A reseller buys just 5 Pyras; you cant give them a noticeable discount. The reseller will sell...
Sorry, you didnt get the point.
There are a few things that would not work like desired.
A reseller would not buy 1000 Pyras at once.
Ed cant assemble 1000 Pyras within a acceptable timeframe.
Ed would not find resellers for every country.
And I said multiple times that Ed should earn...
Hello Ed,
Two things that maybe will solve the discussion.
First, sure as a reseller you have to calculate your own profit and you have to calculate the discount you can give later.
But, you did not wrote it so. You wrote you will hold the price high to not annoy the resellers. And that...
Come on Ed... You can not rotate it as you like....
First you say without any waiting time:
Then later we have a few days:
Then we have 2 weeks:
And then we have 2weeks to 1 month:
What should I say? I lost my words.
Why you choosed Apple? Applestores are Applestores and not...
Hello Ed,
Thirst, thank you for your answer.
It is that bad in Austria! I live in Vienna and here it is like it is in Germany. If some device breaks (not if its broken when buying), then the reseller must not replace the device. Mostly he will send it to a repairstation. Sure the reseller...
And have to wait more time for a new/repaired device...
I had a mobilephone and this broke. I sent it to the shop; the shop sent it to the insurance company; this company sent it to a repair station and this repair station sent it to the manufacturer. It took about 3 months!!
Next time...
I like this idea.
But, thats not far away from beeing reseller. Not with a real shop but many small resellers in different countrys. So we also should get the Pyra cheaper then. Depends on how much Pyras are wanted in the country.
Sure, these "resellers" wont earn money; they will just...
Whats the problem for sending it from Germany to USA?
I just looked from Austria (Im living here; its near Germany) to USA and it will cost ~25Euros. Not that much. Needs about 10-15days.
Or are there other problems with export?
Just a small calculation:
10.000 units sold without reseller and 400 Euros. At 15% thats about 50Euros per unit. That would be 500.000 Euro profit.
If he sells for 500euros, maybe 8000 (2000 more because of resellers) through resellers and 400 Euro for Ed and 4000 personally for 500 Euro...
Yes. Thats another point of truth. Ed cant dictate the price for resellers. That would be illegal.
If a reseller starts to sell the Pyra for ~420 Euros then they can make it and Ed cant do anything to stop this.
Thats what I wanted to explain before. Nobody could stop me if I start beeing...
Yes, thats exactly what I want to say.
Look:
Ed himself wrote this!
I think you dont understand how massproduction works.
I a company buys 5000 Pyras the productioncost will be lower, so they will get a better price. Just as simple.
I think you all didnt read the first post. You are not correct.
Eds price is 402Euro so far in this calculation. All things are paid with it including a profit for Ed.
The 500 comes only because of the resellers:
Look at the very last sentence: "Of course, they won't be happy if I sell it...
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