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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Which is insane in itself. Craig's reluctance to supply even the most basic information was always a warning sign.
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Yep, I have a complaint in with ECC, tried (unsuccessfully) to open a dispute with Google Wallet, have applied for a chargeback on my credit card (no idea how that will go) and also mailed Craig of course requesting a refund. I have to hand it to Stuart - I may not have even bothered if he had...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    WizardStan, whether you intend it or not, you have come across incredibly antagonistic over the last two pages and it doesn't feel warranted in any way especially given there was no 'free Pandora' and Stuart had made that very clear from the outset. Anyone who originally preordered and then...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    This mental health discussion really isn't relevant. The man may or may not have mental health issues, as might anyone. We don't know, we likely won't know, it's complete speculation. One does not need mental illness to be either 1) manipulative or 2) incompetent and people can be either one or...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Agreed. And it's worth doing. It's more difficult outside the UK but there is supposed to be Europe-wide protection and I have a mail into one of these bodies at the moment after being put on to them by local consumer advice. If they turn out to be the right people to speak to, I'll get the...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    I don't know, I think it probably wasn't a mistake at the time but perhaps they didn't realise then that a) there would be many more people looking for mediation/refunds and b ) OpenPandora might not pay up. I think they probably hope to get that money from OP, if they haven't already. I suspect...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    I honestly don't know but you're probably right that it's location-based because I think Stuart said he had been told it was 90 days and he is in the UK. I'm in Ireland. Yes, 180 days seems generous for normal use but if guess we can see here how quickly a few Two Months can go beyond that...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Well I have had some interesting exchanges with Google Wallet. They said they couldn't do anything as it was past a 180 day period. Pushing a bit more, they recommended I initiate a chargeback (which I can and will do if needed but is a postal thing here so longer and trickier). When requesting...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Ah, okay. You said "it sounds like" in your earlier post which wasn't quite as certain as "pretty damn clear". But now your stance is, well, pretty damn clear. Either way, whatever you believe (and I suspect you're right), we don't yet know the actual facts. And of course I will always think...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Ramboky's point was precisely that ALL guesses on who paid are based on nothing until Google give Stuart gets more info (in answer sswam's post that Google gave the money). You guys are twisting this up so some very simple points become about as clear as one of Craig's posts.
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Thanks for that info, Stuart. Really appreciate it. I will push a little harder and see how I get on. I am not in the UK so can't follow some of the other things you did but I'm looking into processes from here. Thanks for the help.
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Fantastic to hear you have managed to get a refund. Really didn't expect that at this stage. I went the Google Wallet mediation route but got a mail saying that they only do that within 180 days. You mentioned the time limit too - did you get the same mail?
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    This only works if you're someone who delivers. Got to follow through or you're just another person who promises a lot and fails to deliver. Craig has shown himself to be someone who just doesn't deliver.
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Well that's a whole other part of the problem - we weren't informed of what was actually going on. I came here the odd time and so had some idea of what was happening over the years but crucial information was not given to the customers. We should have had regular mails. We didn't. Even what...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    The figures are that way because what we originally paid is not counted. ED didn't get that money and it seemed to vanish into Craig's money bonfire. So basically that money we paid is gone and the current Pandora offers are really starting from scratch. Bottom line: we got shafted and ED is...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Not remotely surprised. Guessing we'll never know the details but I couldn't help but wonder when I saw similar stuff happening very recently with the icp2 - what kind of contracts allow for delivery (or even non-delivery) of products that aren't fit for purpose yet still require full and then...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Went reading up on that iPhone controller. What a total utter disaster and so much of it having such a familiar stench. I wonder at what point will people stop giving Craig money...
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    Openpandora Ltd (UK) Struck off email

    Well if only to look for some good in this, at least there is now total separation. Might be worth considering if you need to put a message on the main page on that, ED, so that it's really obvious yours is not Craig's company. In a way, it's a shame this didn't happen ages ago. I'll admit it...
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    EvilDragon's Pre-Order Survey Thread

    To be fair to him, there's a murky distinction there for the reasons you point out - two companies and a separate board community all part of the same address. It didn't apply to me as I'm not even sure this was all here when I ordered (maybe it was but at the time I had no choice but to order...
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    EvilDragon's Pre-Order Survey Thread

    Ah WizardStan, now that you've used the actual situation, I get what you're saying and I agree. Given the circumstances, EvilDragon has been awesome and has earned the respect and trust he has received - something Craig never did, even back when this all started. It's hard to know what would...
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