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I used the term bankruptcy, not bankrupt. I understand how bankruptcy works. I did not talk about funneling money as being proper, I talked about investing money from one company in the other. I have never had the idea of using icp money, but responded to you saying it was illegal and can't...

Maybe you'll feel better to know that it has been only 3.5 years. Sorry, but true. I was an Oct 2009 pre-order... now an unconfirmed Nov, 2012 refund requester. I expect the money is just lost depending upon which company you ordered from. They may work though all this, but with the time...

I think for the most part you agreed with my point. See the quote of mine within yours. Bolded - not only the US auto industry, American Airlines I think is still flying while in bankruptcy for I think a year. Many others have gone through bankruptcy over the last decade or so. Same for...

really don't understand how Ed, Craig and Faith (new one on me) can intermingle funds using pre-orders and Craig's other company "can't" because its illegal. If Craig's other company thought it was a good business to invest in OPL, why could it not invest? I assume the three "shops" put money...

So I assume this means that Ed has never shipped a pandora where Craig's company paid for any of the parts or manufacturing? Or the other way around? The term "Can't" may be a little strong. undesirably I would believe. There is a lot of stuff I don't understand in the company make ups...

and what about real pre-orders? maybe they should go to a FIFO system as was initially set up.

yes, that is an option I omitted. Sorry. And if you donate enough, then you should just upgrade.

I did not know the level of risk when I ordered as I asked about the funding. I was told the financing was in place and the expected release date was at the end of October/November. I ordered on Oct 6th. Well, maybe I had some idea that everything was not smooth throughout the process. I...

yeah, but I don't know for sure he's read any of the requests. That is part of my point. If he'd say it will be 6 months and stick to it, I'd be on my happy way. I thought at one point that I'd take a couple proper Ales at the pub next time I was in the UK but I won't be in his end of the...

I have to agree on the refund information. I have not even got an acknowledgement on receiving the refund request. I did get a quick response to a PM where I stated that I did not see a reason to upgrade ... but the response was that it did not matter which shop I upgraded through. I...

I think palstyo is correct here for the most part. I don't really know for sure as I have not seen a pandora or TV cable (we all know this story). But if the design used a standard connector and pin out for this function, cables could readily be purchased. I don't really believe that no...

I'm pretty sure this was Craig's queue, not Eds based on what I recall from the original thread. dooble -- but I could be wrong

My older son's interest has shifted elsewhere after 3 years and I bought him a beagle board xM last year to play with. No, its not a Pandora replacement. But he had wanted to do development on the Pandora. Since his interest has moved on and 3 years have passed, I really could not see...

just the opposite. I have made several address changes to OP Ltd over the years, but I did receive an email. I'm assuming you are looking for a cause/effect of the email missing? I also ordered through google checkout with openpandorasales.

You know this it really a scary thing in many ways for those in Craig's queue.

Businesses sell units at prices to cover development costs, tooling costs, warranty costs, and salaries just to name a few items. As a balancing act a business needs to cover its liabilities and make some level of profit without making the price so high that people won't buy it. Part of the...

hmmm does your bank support cashing a cheque denominated in pounds? I would check this before you have to have to figure out how to cash it. scam, I like to think not. The way they put the original people who funded the development last makes it feel that way, but I expect that is more...

ATM? This has been a problem for a long time. The best thing that could happen would be they get upgrades that cover most of the cost of WIP and manufacturing and can turn the units quickly to the customers. Others have said they don't make a profit on filling these pre-orders, but they do...

Craig, my comment on "complaining on spelling" from the email was in post #115. I did not check my email directly. Honestly spelling is not my strong suit. dooble

I guess I overlook spelling errors in the email. The Super-Pandora 2.0 was I would guess a little exaggerating since the 1GHz unit does not have that name attached to it. But maybe that is marketing speak. Its a little hard to determine cost of the board in the email because the quantity is...