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Don't know how many, but I did receive the email on the initial mailing and it was as stated in in the post in this topic.  I can't speak for the people who did not get on the first try.  Do check you spam. doob

I think the idea is not just how many there are, but also how many are willing to upgrade and how many want a refund, etc.  This will allow Ed to develop a plan.  Personal info in addition would streamline the following process possibly.

This does sound like a step forward.  I hope the posting date of the OP is ironic and not an April Fools Joke.

yes, but if they did things properly their limitation is likely to the assets of the company (Limited -Ltd). If they did not meet the legal definition it might be able to go further. The laws in different companies vary and it really is not my area of expertise. doob

I would not consider what I'm saying as the same as "Craig defrauded us" in any sense. I am saying that blaming CC, or nubs event, etc without more information. And I can't see how anything in the post would be taken as saying "defraud". I apologize if it comes across that way. I admit...

I appreciate the history. Typically when engaging a company for custom or unique parts like the nubs, you do an investigation into the financial health of the company, plans for business continuation, etc. When engaging a CM, the contracts need to be carefully reviewed and understood as to...

but if you sell a new 1G and refund 2 per-orders, the queue drops by one. Is that not improvement? -- JUST BEING TERSE. I'm not being serious even though it could do that.

Ed, To fulfill your plan to ship to both your and Criag's pre-orders, I would assume you really would need to know where to ship them and what needs shipped. That is unless you are just shipping to Craig.

Ed, Thanks for posting this. One item still of concern and it relates to the status and quantity of Craig's customers/obligations. I took from what you said that you don't have a good reliable count of the number of units or refunds. I would assume that many orders are a bit dated...

small claims in the US does not take long. Assuming they have the same in the UK, it should not talk long either. But getting over there and figuring out how to file will likely cost more than the recovery

The same place the money to fill any pre-order. It has been stated that with the sale of a 1G pandora (not upgrade) they can use the proceeds to ship an original pre-order. I would assume this is done by using the profits to fund the pre-orders. Edit: How else would they fill pre-orders...

I don't think my comment is false if the options are wait for the pre-order or get a refund and using the assumptions stated. For example, lets use pre-order cost $330, production cost $450. I don't know if these are correct, but use them for example and it meets the condition that the...

And what happens to the rest of us. Original pre-orders were the base of the project support. Some are still waiting but may have reasons not to upgrade like being tight on money. Some pre-orders have asked for refunds because the need or desire for one has changed. Since I keep hearing...

The question was asked because I thought I saw that Ed was trying to fill pre-orders from Craig's queue which from the separate company viewpoint Ed does not have to to either. Upgrades are a different story altogether. I asked the question because it does have to do with the state of the...

I read through a bunch and just picked a few to quote where many others should be quoted. Yes the circus is back. My guess is that Craig's latest upgrade offer resulted in more refund requests than upgrades. I like what I hear from Ed about covering Craig's pre-orders (of all types) based...

he is not acknowledging my refund requests.

I get a fair number of geeky projects at work... not to support, but to work on.

Based on a email early on I was between 2500 and 2600 originally. What date did you order?

so was this an upgrade? or was this your original pre-order.

my point was that it is not illegal under proper conditions. I personally don't see the investment potential and if Craig owns iCP outright he would have more control on how to deal with profits as he could take it out as salary or bonus and do with as he wants. I know very little about his...