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!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] included<ref name="main-cpu-only">Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.</ref>
!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] included<ref name="main-cpu-only">Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.</ref>
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palegreen: No proprietary software at all.
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peachpuff: Nonfree software running on main CPU.
pink: System is proprietary.
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* GPU driver
* GPU firmware
* Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
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* Operating System
* Operating System
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* GFX driver
* GPU driver
* WiFi/BT module blob
* Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
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!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] required<!-- for full hardware support --><ref name="main-cpu-only" />
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* GFX driver for 3D acceleration<!-- WiFi driver is free as on Neo900 -->
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound, no touchscreen, etc.<ref>GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.</ref> <!-- Missing free battery charger drivers, plus touchscreen and sound. No news about the bootloader, either. No news is bad news. We can update this as stuff improves, there is no need to declare victory so early. -->
palegreen: All hardware fully functional without nonfree software.
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palegoldenrod: Minor functionality missing without nonfree software; only small inconveniences or performance loss. E.g. software video decoding.
* GFX driver for 3D acceleration<ref name="neo900_faq" /><!-- WiFi kernel driver is free, according to the their FAQ, with non-free firmware -->
peachpuff: Major functionality missing without nonfree software. Device still usable, but significant workarounds or compromises needed. E.g. no Wi-Fi.
pink: Unusable without nonfree software.
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* GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
* GPU firmware (for video acceleration)
* Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
<ref>https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/potential-for-linux-libre-on-the-pyra.79769/#post-1405282</ref>
| Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound, no touchscreen, etc.<ref>GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.</ref> <!-- Missing free battery charger drivers, plus touchscreen and sound. No news about the bootloader, either. No news is bad news. We can update this as stuff improves, there is no need to declare victory so early. -->
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* GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
* Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
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* GFX driver for 3D acceleration
* GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
* WiFi/BT module blob
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Revision as of 20:37, 12 May 2017


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Gemini Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz WiFi WiFi + 4G
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 352,94 EUR[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4] ∼460 EUR ∼550 EUR
∼545 USD ∼575 USD ∼655 USD ∼680 USD ∼385 USD ∼1305 USD ∼135 USD ∼200 USD ∼340 USD 499 USD[5] 599 USD[5]
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Released, (video) reviews plentiful Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Indiegogo campaign[5] Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017[4] Released: 2016-10[6] 2017-Q3[3] Released[4] 2017-11[5] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China ??? Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[7] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[8][9] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[10][11] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[12] 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm[5]
Weight ∼400 g[5] 368 g[6] ∼181 g 320 g[12] ∼400 g[5]
Screen size 5 in[7] 5,5 in[8] 3,5 in[13] 4,3 in[14] 5,9 in[5] 6,4 in[15]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px (294 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[7][7] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[8] 800×480 px (267 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[13] 800×480 px (217 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[14] 2160×1080 px (403 px∕in; 2,3 megapixel)[5] 2160×3840 px (688 px∕in; 8,3 megapixel)[15]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[8] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[13] Resistive (Stylus included)[8] Multitouch[5]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[16] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[17] 6 Non‐RGB LEDs[18] None?
Keyboard Backlight Yes[7] No Yes [19] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[20] Problematic [21] OK OK Yes[5]
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[22] Mappable Impossible[22] Impossible[22] Supported[5]
Keyboard keys 47[23] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[24] 38 43[25] 54?[5] 49?[15]
Face buttons 6[7] 4[8] 0 4[14] 0[5] 0[15]
Shoulder buttons 4[7] 4[8] 0 2[14] 0[5] 0?[15]
Control buttons 6[23] 4[24] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[25] 1[5] 0?[15]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[7] Mini joysticks, not clickable[8] None Nubs, not clickable[14] None[5] None[15]
Volume control Wheel[7] (digital input device: software control[9]) Buttons[8] Buttons Wheel[14] (direct hardware control) No?[5] No?[15]
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[8] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[11] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Android[5] Swordfish[15]
Windows x86 Applications Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Native Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine)
Android apps Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Native
Non‐Free Software included[26]
  • GPU driver
  • GPU firmware
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
  • Operating System
 None
  • GPU driver
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
Non‐Free Software required[26]
  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • GPU firmware (for video acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware

[27]

Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound, no touchscreen, etc.[28]
  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware

[29]

  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
Hardware Documentation Yes, under CC-BY-NC-SA licence No Yes, under CC-BY-SA licence Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[7] Intel Atom x7-Z8750[2] ARM Cortex-A8[13] ARM Cortex-A8[12] ARM Cortex-A72[5] Qualcomm Kryo[15]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core 2 cores[5] 24 cores
1,5 GHz 1,6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2,5 GHz[5] 2,… GHz?[30]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[7]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[7]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[12]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[12]
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1,55 GHz[5]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[8] 1 GiB[13] 256 MiB [12] 512 MiB [12] 2 GiB[5] 18 GiB[15]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[31] LPDDR3-1600[8] Dual-Channel[32] LPDDR DDR-333[12] LPDDR4X[15]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[7][33] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200–600 MHz, 16-core, shared memory[9][34] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200 MHz SGX530 @ 110 MHz[12] SGX530 @ 200 MHz[12] ARM Mali 850 MHz[5] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz?[30]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[10][7] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[8] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[13] IEEE 802.11 b/g[14] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac[5]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[9] Bluetooth 4.1[13] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[14] Bluetooth 4.0[5]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[13]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[29]
  • Dual SIM[35]
 No No[5]
  • LTE w/ VoLTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE
  • SIM + eSIM[5]
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[7] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[13] No GPS with A-GPS[5]
Modem system isolation/monitoring[36] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[11][12] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[35] n/a No?[5] No?
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000 mAh, 3,7 V, LiPo[7] 6900 mAh[9] 1320 mAh, 3,7–4,2 V 4200 mAh, 4,2 V[14] 8000 mAh, Li-Ion[5]
  • 3600 mAh, Graphene[15]
  • 2400 mAh, Li-Ion[15]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[15]
Removable Non‐Removable Removable Removable Removable[5] Non‐Removable?[15]
Battery life (high power draw) 8 hours[37] 3–4 hours[13] 4–5 hours 10 hours[14] 12 hours[5]
Battery life (standby) ??? ??? 10 days ??? 14 days[5]
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[7] Mini-HDMI (type C)[8] TRRS Composite[38] Custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In & Out[14] Unknown HDMI output[5]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[7]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[32]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[8]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[13]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[14]
 2×USB-C 3.1[5]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[7]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[8]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[13]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[7]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[8]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[14]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[39] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 320 GiB?[5] 1280 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[13] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[13] No 5 MP front[5] 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[15]
NFC No No Yes[13][40] No Yes[5]
Fingerprint No No No No Yes[5]
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 GPD Win Rev. 2 (Z8750) on DragonBox Shop
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 5.23 5.24 5.25 5.26 5.27 5.28 5.29 5.30 5.31 5.32 5.33 5.34 5.35 5.36 5.37 5.38 5.39 5.40 5.41 Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign
  6. ↑ GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  7. ↑ 7.00 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.05 7.06 7.07 7.08 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 Pyra specification
  8. ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 GPD Win specification
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 GPD Win development updates
  10. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  13. ↑ 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 Neo900 specification
  14. ↑ 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 14.13 Pandora specification
  15. ↑ 15.00 15.01 15.02 15.03 15.04 15.05 15.06 15.07 15.08 15.09 15.10 15.11 15.12 15.13 15.14 15.15 15.16 15.17 15.18 15.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  16. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  17. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  18. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  19. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  20. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  21. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 Pyra mockup image
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 GPD Win mockup image
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 Pandora photo
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  27. ↑ https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/potential-for-linux-libre-on-the-pyra.79769/#post-1405282
  28. ↑ GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.
  29. ↑ 29.0 29.1 Neo900 FAQ
  30. ↑ 30.0 30.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  31. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  32. ↑ 32.0 32.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  33. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  34. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  35. ↑ 35.0 35.1 Neo900 block diagram
  36. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  37. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  38. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  39. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  40. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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