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| colspan="4"| 2017[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/comprehensive-status-update.78390/page-2#post-1395949]
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| colspan="2"| 2017-11<ref name="gemini_story" />
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Revision as of 14:31, 30 April 2017


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Gemini Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz WiFi WiFi + 4G
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 352,94 EUR[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4] ∼460 EUR ∼550 EUR
∼545 USD ∼575 USD ∼655 USD ∼680 USD ∼385 USD ∼1305 USD ∼135 USD ∼200 USD ∼340 USD 499 USD[5] 599 USD[5]
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Released, (video) reviews plentiful Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Indiegogo campaign[5] Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017[4] Released: 2016-10[6] 2017-Q3[3] Released[4] 2017-11[5] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China ??? Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[7] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[8][9] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[10][11] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[12] 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm[5]
Weight ∼400 g[5] 368 g[6] ∼181 g 320 g[12] ∼400 g[5]
Screen size 5 in[7] 5,5 in[8] 3,5 in[13] 4,3 in[14] 5,9 in[5] 6,4 in[15]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px (294 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[7][7] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[8] 800×480 px (267 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[13] 800×480 px (217 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[14] 2160×1080 px (403 px∕in; 2,3 megapixel)[5] 2160×3840 px (688 px∕in; 8,3 megapixel)[15]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[8] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[13] Resistive (Stylus included)[8] Multitouch[5]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[16] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[17] 6 Non‐RGB LEDs[18] None?
Keyboard Backlight Yes[7] No Yes [19] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[20] Problematic [21] OK OK Yes[5]
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[22] Mappable Impossible[22] Impossible[22] Supported[5]
Keyboard keys 47[23] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[24] 38 43[25] 54?[5] 49?[15]
Face buttons 6[7] 4[8] 0 4[14] 0[5] 0[15]
Shoulder buttons 4[7] 4[8] 0 2[14] 0[5] 0?[15]
Control buttons 6[23] 4[24] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[25] 1[5] 0?[15]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[7] Mini joysticks, not clickable[8] None Nubs, not clickable[14] None[5] None[15]
Volume control Wheel[7] (digital input device: software control[9]) Buttons[8] Buttons Wheel[14] (direct hardware control) No?[5] No?[15]
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[8] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[11] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Android[5] Swordfish[15]
Windows x86 Applications Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Native Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine)
Android apps Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Native
Non‐Free Software included[26]
  • GFX driver
  • Operating System
 None
  • GFX driver
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Non‐Free Software required[26]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
 Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound, no touchscreen, etc.[27]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration[28]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Hardware Documentation Yes, under CC-BY-NC-SA licence No Yes, under CC-BY-SA licence Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[7] Intel Atom x7-Z8750[2] ARM Cortex-A8[13] ARM Cortex-A8[12] ARM Cortex-A72[5] Qualcomm Kryo[15]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core 2 cores[5] 24 cores
1,5 GHz 1,6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2,5 GHz[5] 2,… GHz?[29]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[7]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[7]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[12]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[12]
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1,55 GHz[5]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[8] 1 GiB[13] 256 MiB [12] 512 MiB [12] 2 GiB[5] 18 GiB[15]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[30] LPDDR3-1600[8] Dual-Channel[31] LPDDR DDR-333[12] LPDDR4X[15]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[7][32] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200–600 MHz, 16-core, shared memory[9][33] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200 MHz SGX530 @ 110 MHz[12] SGX530 @ 200 MHz[12] ARM Mali 850 MHz[5] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz?[29]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[10][7] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[8] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[13] IEEE 802.11 b/g[14] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac[5]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[9] Bluetooth 4.1[13] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[14] Bluetooth 4.0[5]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[13]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[28]
  • Dual SIM[34]
 No No[5]
  • LTE w/ VoLTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE
  • SIM + eSIM[5]
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[7] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[13] No GPS with A-GPS[5]
Modem system isolation/monitoring[35] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[11][12] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[34] n/a No?[5] No?
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000 mAh, 3,7 V, LiPo[7] 6900 mAh[9] 1320 mAh, 3,7–4,2 V 4200 mAh, 4,2 V[14] 8000 mAh, Li-Ion[5]
  • 3600 mAh, Graphene[15]
  • 2400 mAh, Li-Ion[15]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[15]
Removable Non‐Removable Removable Removable Removable[5] Non‐Removable?[15]
Battery life (high power draw) 8 hours[36] 3–4 hours[13] 4–5 hours 10 hours[14] 12 hours[5]
Battery life (standby) ??? ??? 10 days ??? 14 days[5]
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[7] Mini-HDMI (type C)[8] TRRS Composite[37] Custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In & Out[14] Unknown HDMI output[5]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[7]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[31]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[8]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[13]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[14]
 2×USB-C 3.1[5]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[7]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[8]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[13]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[7]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[8]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[14]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[38] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 320 GiB?[5] 1280 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[13] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[13] No 5 MP front[5] 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[15]
NFC No No Yes[13][39] No Yes[5]
Fingerprint No No No No Yes[5]
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 GPD Win Rev. 2 (Z8750) on DragonBox Shop
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 5.23 5.24 5.25 5.26 5.27 5.28 5.29 5.30 5.31 5.32 5.33 5.34 5.35 5.36 5.37 5.38 5.39 5.40 5.41 Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign
  6. ↑ GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  7. ↑ 7.00 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.05 7.06 7.07 7.08 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 Pyra specification
  8. ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 GPD Win specification
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 GPD Win development updates
  10. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  13. ↑ 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 Neo900 specification
  14. ↑ 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 14.13 Pandora specification
  15. ↑ 15.00 15.01 15.02 15.03 15.04 15.05 15.06 15.07 15.08 15.09 15.10 15.11 15.12 15.13 15.14 15.15 15.16 15.17 15.18 15.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  16. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  17. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  18. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  19. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  20. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  21. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 Pyra mockup image
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 GPD Win mockup image
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 Pandora photo
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  27. ↑ GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.
  28. ↑ 28.0 28.1 Neo900 FAQ
  29. ↑ 29.0 29.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  30. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  31. ↑ 31.0 31.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  32. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  33. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  34. ↑ 34.0 34.1 Neo900 block diagram
  35. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  36. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  37. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  38. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  39. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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