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!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900] | !rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900] | ||
!colspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora] | !colspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora] | ||
!colspan="2"|[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/ Gemini] | |||
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|Chaconne | !rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|Chaconne | ||
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!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|Rebirth | !rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|Rebirth | ||
!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|1GHz | !rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|1GHz | ||
!rowspan="2"|WiFi | |||
!rowspan="2"|WiFi + 4G | |||
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!style="width: 5.8125%;"|2GB RAM | !style="width: 5.8125%;"|2GB RAM | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" | ~275 EUR<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | ~365 EUR<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand | | style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| Indiegogo campaign<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware | | style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware | ||
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| 2017? | | 2017? | ||
| colspan="3"| Released<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | | colspan="3"| Released<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" /> | ||
| colspan="2"| 2017-11<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| 2018 | | 2018 | ||
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| Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) | | Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) | ||
| colspan="3"| Germany, UK, China | | colspan="3"| Germany, UK, China | ||
| colspan="2"| ? | |||
| Finland | | Finland | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm<ref name="nokian900_spec" /><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015"/> <!-- Volume: ∼142 cm³ --> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm<ref name="nokian900_spec" /><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015"/> <!-- Volume: ∼142 cm³ --> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> <!-- Volume: ∼343 cm³ --> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> <!-- Volume: ∼343 cm³ --> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| ??? <!-- Around 181 g, the weight of the original Nokia N900 --> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| ??? <!-- Around 181 g, the weight of the original Nokia N900 --> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 320 g<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 320 g<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| ~400 g<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 3.5 in<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 3.5 in<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4.3 in<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4.3 in<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 5.9 in<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6.4 in<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 6.4 in<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 --> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 --> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 --> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 --> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2160x1080 px (403 px/in, 2.3 megapixel)<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)<ref name="turing_campaign" /> <!-- Total pixels: 8 294 400 --> | | style="background-color: lime"| 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)<ref name="turing_campaign" /> <!-- Total pixels: 8 294 400 --> | ||
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| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| colspan="3"| Resistive (Stylus included)[http://pandorawiki.org/Display] | | colspan="3"| Resistive (Stylus included)[http://pandorawiki.org/Display] | ||
| colspan="2"| Multitouch<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)</ref> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing --> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing --> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| None? | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | |style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | ||
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| OK | |style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| OK | ||
|colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/> | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/> | ||
|style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/> | |style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/> | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Supported<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 38 | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 38 | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 43<ref name="pandora_photo"/> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 43<ref name="pandora_photo"/> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 54 ?<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 49 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 49 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: pink"| 0 | | style="background-color: pink"| 0 | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 0<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| 0<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: pink"| 0<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: pink"| 0 | | style="background-color: pink"| 0 | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 2<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 2<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 0<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4 + slider & camera cover | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4 + slider & camera cover | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 3 + slider<ref name="pandora_photo" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 3 + slider<ref name="pandora_photo" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 1<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: pink"| None | | style="background-color: pink"| None | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| [[Nubs]], not clickable<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| [[Nubs]], not clickable<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| None<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| None<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: pink"| None<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| Buttons | | Buttons | ||
| colspan="3"| Wheel<ref name="pandora_spec" /> (direct hardware control) | | colspan="3"| Wheel<ref name="pandora_spec" /> (direct hardware control) | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| No ?<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: pink"| No ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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| [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 NeoFremantle] <small>(based on Maemo 5)</small><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015" /> | | [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 NeoFremantle] <small>(based on Maemo 5)</small><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015" /> | ||
| colspan="3"| SuperZaxxon <small>(based on [http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m Ångström])</small> | | colspan="3"| SuperZaxxon <small>(based on [http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m Ångström])</small> | ||
| colspan="2"| Android and Linux<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| Swordfish<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | Swordfish<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine]) | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine]) | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine]) | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine]) | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik]) | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik]) | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik]) | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik]) | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Native | |||
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* GFX driver | * GFX driver | ||
* WiFi/BT module blob | * WiFi/BT module blob | ||
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* GFX driver for 3D acceleration | * GFX driver for 3D acceleration | ||
* WiFi/BT module blob | * WiFi/BT module blob | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] licence | | style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] licence | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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! rowspan="3"|CPU | ! rowspan="3"|CPU | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x7-Z8750<ref name="dragonbox_shop_gpdwin /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| ARM Cortex-A72<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Qualcomm Kryo<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Qualcomm Kryo<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 core | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 core | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 2<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| 24 cores | | style="background-color: lime"| 24 cores | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2" | 600 MHz | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2" | 600 MHz | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 1 GHz | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 1 GHz | ||
| style="background-color: lime" colspan="2"| 2.5 GHz<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| 2.x GHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/> | | style="background-color: lime"| 2.x GHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/> | ||
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* NEON SIMD | * NEON SIMD | ||
* TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | * TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
* 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz | |||
* 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1.55 GHz<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: pink" | 256 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: pink" | 256 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2 GiB<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| 18 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: lime"| 18 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" | LPDDR | | style="background-color: peachpuff" | LPDDR | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | DDR-333<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | DDR-333<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR4X<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR4X<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| SGX530 @ 110MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| SGX530 @ 110MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" | SGX530 @ 200MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" | SGX530 @ 200MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> | ||
| colspan="2"| ARM Mali 850MHz<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/> | | Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| IEEE 802.11 b/g<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| IEEE 802.11 b/g<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| Bluetooth 4.0<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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* Dual SIM<ref name="neo900_diagram" /> | * Dual SIM<ref name="neo900_diagram" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| No<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| | |||
* LTE w/ VoLTE | |||
* UMTS (WCDMA) | |||
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE | |||
* SIM + eSIM<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| | | style="background-color: palegreen"| | ||
* LTE w/ VoLTE<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | * LTE w/ VoLTE<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| GPS with A-GPS<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" /> | ||
| colspan="3"| n/a | | colspan="3"| n/a | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| No?<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No? | | style="background-color: pink"| No? | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Via [http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf HackerBus] in battery compartment | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Via [http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf HackerBus] in battery compartment | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? --> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? --> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 8000mAh, Li-Ion<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| | ||
* 3600mAh Graphene<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | * 3600mAh Graphene<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Removable | |style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Removable | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Removable<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | |style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable ?<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 4-5 hours | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 4-5 hours | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 10 hours<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 10 hours<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 12 hours<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days | ||
| colspan="3"| ??? | | colspan="3"| ??? | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 14 days<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TRRS Composite<ref>Like the N900, per IRC discussion.</ref> | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| TRRS Composite<ref>Like the N900, per IRC discussion.</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| colspan="2"| Unknown HDMI output<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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* 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub) | * 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub) | ||
* 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | * 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2×USB-C 3.1<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: pink"| No | | style="background-color: pink"| No | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| colspan="2"| | |||
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| | | style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| | ||
* 512 MiB NAND<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | * 512 MiB NAND<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| | |||
* 64 GiB<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| | | style="background-color: lime"| | ||
* 768 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | * 768 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| | | style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| | ||
* 2×SDXC (External)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | * 2×SDXC (External)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| | |||
* 1×microSD<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| | ||
* 2×microSDXC | * 2×microSDXC | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 320 GiB | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 320 GiB | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 1024 GiB | | style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 1024 GiB | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"|320 GiB?<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1280 GiB | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 1280 GiB | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen" | 2112 GiB | | style="background-color: palegreen" | 2112 GiB | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 4096 GiB | | style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 4096 GiB | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"|2112 GiB?<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Rx & Tx<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Rx & Tx<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| VGA front & 5 MP rear<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| VGA front & 5 MP rear<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 5 MP front<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
| style="background-color: lime"| 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | | style="background-color: lime"| 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear<ref name="turing_campaign" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | | style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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!Fingerprint | |||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | |||
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" /> | |||
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<references> | <references> | ||
<ref name="gemini_story">[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/ Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign]</ref> | |||
<ref name="turing_campaign">[http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=5926adce6d&e=e094d06079 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign]</ref> | <ref name="turing_campaign">[http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=5926adce6d&e=e094d06079 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign]</ref> | ||
<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech">[http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-830-10nm-kryo-doge-approve/ Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak]</ref> | <ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech">[http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-830-10nm-kryo-doge-approve/ Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak]</ref> |
Revision as of 23:36, 25 April 2017
Pyra | GPD Win | Neo900 | Pandora | Gemini | Chaconne | |||||||
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Standard Edition | Mobile Edition | Classic | Rebirth | 1GHz | WiFi | WiFi + 4G | ||||||
2GB RAM | 4GB RAM | 2GB RAM | 4GB RAM | |||||||||
Price | 500 EUR[1] | 529,41 EUR[1] | 600 EUR[1] | 626,05 EUR[1] | 352,94 EUR[2] | ∼1200 EUR[3] | 126,05 EUR[4] | 184,87 EUR[4] | 310,92 EUR[4] | ~275 EUR[5] | ~365 EUR[5] | |
Status & credibility | Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes | Released, (video) reviews plentiful | Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra | Released, sold out, second-hand | Indiegogo campaign[5] | Announcement, renders, vapourware | ||||||
Estimated shipping date | 2017[4] | Released: 2016-10[6] | 2017? | Released[4] | 2017-11[5] | 2018 | ||||||
Main countries of manufacture | Germany, Greece (case) | China | Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) | Germany, UK, China | ? | Finland | ||||||
Size | 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[7] | 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[8][9] | 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[10][11] | 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[12] | 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm[5] | |||||||
Weight | ??? | 368 g[5] | ??? | 320 g[12] | ~400 g[5] | |||||||
Screen size | 5 in[7] | 5.5 in[8] | 3.5 in[13] | 4.3 in[14] | 5.9 in[5] | 6.4 in[15] | ||||||
Screen resolution | 1280x720 px (294 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[6][7] | 1280×720 px (267 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[8] | 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[13] | 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[14] | 2160x1080 px (403 px/in, 2.3 megapixel)[5] | 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)[15] | ||||||
Touchscreen | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) | Capacitive, multitouch[8] | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[13] | Resistive (Stylus included)[7] | Multitouch[5] | |||||||
Notification LEDs | Total 5 RGB LEDs[16] | Only power indicator | Total 5 RGB LEDs[17] | 6 Non-RGB LEDs[18] | None? | |||||||
Keyboard Backlight | Yes[7] | No | Yes [19] | No | ||||||||
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) | Good[20] | Problematic [21] | OK | OK | Yes[5] | |||||||
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) | Impossible[22] | Mappable | Impossible[22] | Impossible[22] | Supported[5] | |||||||
Keyboard keys | 47[23] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) | 67[24] | 38 | 43[25] | 54 ?[5] | 49 ?[15] | ||||||
Face buttons | 6[7] | 4[8] | 0 | 4[14] | 0[5] | 0[15] | ||||||
Shoulder buttons | 4[7] | 4[8] | 0 | 2[14] | 0[5] | 0 ?[15] | ||||||
Control buttons | 6[23] | 4[24] | 4 + slider & camera cover | 3 + slider[25] | 1[5] | 0 ?[15] | ||||||
Analogue control | Nubs, clickable[7] | mini-joysticks, not clickable[8] | None | Nubs, not clickable[14] | None[5] | None[15] | ||||||
Volume control | Wheel[7] (digital input device: software control[8]) | Buttons[8] | Buttons | Wheel[14] (direct hardware control) | No ?[5] | No ?[15] | ||||||
Vibration motor | Yes | No | Yes | No | ||||||||
Primary Operating System | Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) | Microsoft Windows 10 Home[8] | NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[11] | SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) | Android and Linux[5] | Swordfish[15] | ||||||
Windows x86 Applications | Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) | Native | Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) | Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) | ||||||||
Android apps | Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) | Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) | Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) | Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) | Native | |||||||
Non‐Free Software included[26] |
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Hardware Documentation | Yes, under CC-BY-NC-SA licence | No | Yes, under CC-BY-SA licence | Yes, under custom non-commercial use license | ||||||||
CPU | ARM Cortex-A15[7] | Intel Atom x7-Z8750[2] | ARM Cortex-A8[13] | ARM Cortex-A8[12] | ARM Cortex-A72[5] | Qualcomm Kryo[15] | ||||||
2 cores | 4 cores | 1 core | 1 core | 2[5] | 24 cores | |||||||
1.5 GHz | 1.6 GHz | 1 GHz | 600 MHz | 1 GHz | 2.5 GHz[5] | 2.x GHz ?[29] | ||||||
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RAM | 2 GiB | 4 GiB | 2 GiB | 4 GiB | 4 GiB[8] | 1 GiB[13] | 256 MiB [12] | 512 MiB [12] | 2 GiB[5] | 18 GiB[15] | ||
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[30] | LPDDR3-1600[8] Dual-Channel[31] | LPDDR | DDR-333[12] | LPDDR4X[15] | ||||||||
GPU | PowerVR SGX544-MP2[7][32] | Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[9][33] | PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz | SGX530 @ 110MHz[12] | SGX530 @ 200MHz[12] | ARM Mali 850MHz[5] | Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?[29] | |||||
Wireless LAN | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9][7] | IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[8] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[13] | IEEE 802.11 b/g[14] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac[5] | |||||||
Bluetooth | Bluetooth 4.1[7] | Bluetooth 4.1[9] | Bluetooth 4.1[13] | Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[14] | Bluetooth 4.0[5] | |||||||
Cell modem (SIM card slot) | No |
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Satellite navigation (GNSS) | No | GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[7] | No | GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[13] | No | GPS with A-GPS[5] | ||||||
Modem system isolation/monitoring[35] | n/a | Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[10][11] | n/a | Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[34] | n/a | No?[5] | No? | |||||
Upgrades | Display, CPU-Board | No | Via HackerBus in battery compartment | No | ||||||||
Battery | 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[7] | 6900mAh, ?V[9] | 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V | 4200mAh, 4.2V[14] | 8000mAh, Li-Ion[5] | |||||||
Removable | Non Removable | Removable | Removable | Removable[5] | Non Removable ?[15] | |||||||
Battery life (high power draw) | 8 hours[36] | 3-4 hours[12] | 4-5 hours | 10 hours[14] | 12 hours[5] | |||||||
Battery life (standby) | ??? | ??? | 10 days | ??? | 14 days[5] | |||||||
Video output | Micro-HDMI (type D)[7] | Mini-HDMI (type C)[8] | TRRS Composite[37] | custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[14] | Unknown HDMI output[5] | |||||||
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eSATA | With small adapter on Type-A USB port | No | No | No | ||||||||
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Maximum storage capacity (practical)[38] | 1312 GiB | 192 GiB | 320 GiB | 1024 GiB | 320 GiB?[5] | 1280 GiB | ||||||
FM radio | No | No | Rx & Tx[13] | No | ||||||||
Camera | No | No | VGA front & 5 MP rear[13] | No | 5 MP front[5] | 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[15] | ||||||
NFC | No | No | Yes[13][39] | No | Yes[5] | |||||||
Fingerprint | No | No | No | No | Yes[5] |
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 GPD Win Rev. 2 (Z8750) on DragonBox Shop
- ↑ PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
- ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 5.23 5.24 5.25 5.26 5.27 5.28 5.29 5.30 5.31 5.32 5.33 5.34 5.35 5.36 5.37 5.38 5.39 5.40 5.41 Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign
- ↑ GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
- ↑ 7.00 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.05 7.06 7.07 7.08 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 Pyra specification
- ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 GPD Win specification
- ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 GPD Win development updates
- ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
- ↑ 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 Neo900 specification
- ↑ 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 14.13 Pandora specification
- ↑ 15.00 15.01 15.02 15.03 15.04 15.05 15.06 15.07 15.08 15.09 15.10 15.11 15.12 15.13 15.14 15.15 15.16 15.17 15.18 15.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
- ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
- ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
- ↑ All are on the Hinge
- ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
- ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
- ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
- ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
- ↑ 23.0 23.1 Pyra mockup image
- ↑ 24.0 24.1 GPD Win mockup image
- ↑ 25.0 25.1 Pandora photo
- ↑ 26.0 26.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
- ↑ GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.
- ↑ 28.0 28.1 Neo900 FAQ
- ↑ 29.0 29.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
- ↑ RAM Datasheet
- ↑ 31.0 31.1 GPD Win comments & replies
- ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
- ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
- ↑ 34.0 34.1 Neo900 block diagram
- ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
- ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
- ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
- ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
- ↑ Neo900 NFC info