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Revision as of 03:21, 15 January 2018


Pyra GPD Win 2 GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Gemini Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz WiFi WiFi + 4G
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 500 EUR 352,94 EUR[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4] ∼460 EUR ∼550 EUR
∼545 USD ∼575 USD ∼655 USD ∼680 USD ∼599 USD[5] ∼385 USD ∼1305 USD ∼135 USD ∼200 USD ∼340 USD 499 USD[6] 599 USD[6]
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Released, (video) reviews plentiful Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Indiegogo campaign[6] Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017[4] 2018-05[5] Released: 2016-10[7] 2017-Q3[3] Released[4] 2017-11[6] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China ??? Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[8] 162 mm × 99 mm × 25 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[9][10] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[11][12] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[13] 171 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm[6]
Weight ∼400 g[5] 460 g[5] 368 g[6] ∼181 g 320 g[13] ∼400 g[6]
Screen size 5 in[8] 6 in[5] 5,5 in[9] 3,5 in[14] 4,3 in[15] 5,9 in[6] 6,4 in[16]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px (294 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[7][8] 1280×720 px (245 px/in; 0,92 megapixel)[5] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in; 0,92 megapixel)[9] 800×480 px (267 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[14] 800×480 px (217 px∕in; 0,38 megapixel)[15] 2160×1080 px (403 px∕in; 2,3 megapixel)[6] 2160×3840 px (688 px∕in; 8,3 megapixel)[16]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[9] Capacitive, multitouch[9] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[14] Resistive (Stylus included)[8] Multitouch[6]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[17] Only power indicator Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[18] 6 Non‐RGB LEDs[19] None?
Keyboard Backlight Yes[8] No No Yes [20] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[21] Good[9] Problematic [22] OK OK Yes[6]
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[23] Mappable Mappable Impossible[23] Impossible[23] Supported[6]
Keyboard keys 47[24] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 82[5] 67[25] 38 43[26] 54?[6] 49?[16]
Face buttons 6[8] 4[5] 4[9] 0 4[15] 0[6] 0[16]
Shoulder buttons 4[8] 6[5] 4[9] 0 2[15] 0[6] 0?[16]
Control buttons 6[24] 4[5] 4[25] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[26] 1[6] 0?[16]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[8] Mini joysticks, not clickable[5] Mini joysticks, not clickable[9] None Nubs, not clickable[15] None[6] None[16]
Volume control Wheel[8] (digital input device: software control[9]) Keys[5] Buttons[9] Buttons Wheel[15] (direct hardware control) No?[6] No?[16]
Vibration motor Yes Dual[5] No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Stretch”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[5] Microsoft Windows 10 Home[9] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[12] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Android[6] Swordfish[16]
Windows x86 Applications Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Native Native Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine)
Android apps Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Native
Non‐Free Software included[27]
  • GPU driver
  • GPU firmware
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
  • Operating System
  • Operating System
 None
  • GPU driver
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
Non‐Free Software required[27]
  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • GPU firmware (for video acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware

[28]

Likely none Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound.[29]
  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware

[30]

  • GPU driver (for 3D acceleration)
  • Wi-Fi & Bluetooth module firmware
Hardware Documentation Yes, under CC-BY-NC-SA licence No No Yes, under CC-BY-SA licence Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[8] Intel Core m3-7Y30[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8750[2] ARM Cortex-A8[14] ARM Cortex-A8[13] ARM Cortex-A72[6] Qualcomm Kryo[16]
2 cores 2 cores[5] 4 cores 1 core 1 core 2 cores[6] 24 cores
1,5 GHz 2,6 GHz[5] 1,6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2,5 GHz[6] 2,… GHz?[31]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[8]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[8]
  • SSE SIMD
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[13]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[13]
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1,55 GHz[6]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 8 GiB[5] 4 GiB[9] 1 GiB[14] 256 MiB [13] 512 MiB [13] 2 GiB[6] 18 GiB[16]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[32] LPDDR3-1866[5] Dual-Channel[5] LPDDR3-1600[9] Dual-Channel[33] LPDDR DDR-333[13] LPDDR4X[16]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[8][34] Intel HD Graphics 615 @ 300–900 MHz, 24-core, shared memory[5] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200–600 MHz, 16-core, shared memory[10][35] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200 MHz SGX530 @ 110 MHz[13] SGX530 @ 200 MHz[13] ARM Mali 850 MHz[6] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz?[31]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[10][8] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[9] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[14] IEEE 802.11 b/g[15] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac[6]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[8] Bluetooth 4.2[5] Bluetooth 4.1[10] Bluetooth 4.1[14] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[15] Bluetooth 4.0[6]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[14]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[30]
  • Dual SIM[36]
 No No No No[6]
  • LTE w/ VoLTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE
  • SIM + eSIM[6]
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[8] No No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[14] No GPS with A-GPS[6]
Modem system isolation/monitoring[37] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[11][12] n/a n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[36] n/a No?[6] No?
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board Cover, SSD[5] No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000 mAh, 3,7 V, LiPo[8] 2x 4900 mAh, 3.8 V, LiPo[5] 6900 mAh[10] 1320 mAh, 3,7–4,2 V 4200 mAh, 4,2 V[15] 8000 mAh, Li-Ion[6]
  • 3600 mAh, Graphene[16]
  • 2400 mAh, Li-Ion[16]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[16]
Removable Non‐Removable Non‐Removable Removable Removable Removable[6] Non‐Removable?[16]
Battery life (high power draw) 8 hours[38] 6-8 hours[5] 3–4 hours[13] 4–5 hours 10 hours[15] 12 hours[6]
Battery life (standby) ??? ??? ??? 10 days ??? 14 days[6]
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[8] Micro-HDMI (type D) 1.4, Miracast[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[9] TRRS Composite[39] Custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In & Out[15] Unknown HDMI output[6]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[8]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[5]
  • 1×USB-C 3.1[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[5]
  • 1×USB-C 3.1[5]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[14]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[15]
 2×USB-C 3.1[6]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[8]
  • 128 GiB SSD[5]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[9]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[14]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[8]
  • 1×microSDXC (External)[5]
  • 1×M.2 2242[5]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[9]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[15]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[40] 1312 GiB 640 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 320 GiB?[6] 1280 GiB
FM radio No No No Rx & Tx[14] No
Camera No No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[14] No 5 MP front[6] 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[16]
NFC No No No Yes[14][41] No Yes[6]
Fingerprint No No No No No Yes[6]
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 GPD Win Rev. 2 (Z8750) on DragonBox Shop
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 5.23 5.24 5.25 5.26 5.27 5.28 5.29 5.30 5.31 5.32 5.33 GPD Win 2 IndieGoGo campaign
  6. ↑ 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 6.20 6.21 6.22 6.23 6.24 6.25 6.26 6.27 6.28 6.29 6.30 6.31 6.32 6.33 6.34 6.35 6.36 6.37 6.38 6.39 6.40 6.41 Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign
  7. ↑ GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  8. ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 8.16 8.17 8.18 8.19 Pyra specification
  9. ↑ 9.00 9.01 9.02 9.03 9.04 9.05 9.06 9.07 9.08 9.09 9.10 9.11 9.12 9.13 9.14 9.15 9.16 GPD Win specification
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 GPD Win development updates
  11. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 13.4 13.5 13.6 13.7 13.8 13.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  14. ↑ 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 14.13 Neo900 specification
  15. ↑ 15.00 15.01 15.02 15.03 15.04 15.05 15.06 15.07 15.08 15.09 15.10 15.11 15.12 15.13 Pandora specification
  16. ↑ 16.00 16.01 16.02 16.03 16.04 16.05 16.06 16.07 16.08 16.09 16.10 16.11 16.12 16.13 16.14 16.15 16.16 16.17 16.18 16.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  17. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  18. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  19. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  20. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  21. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  22. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 23.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 Pyra mockup image
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 GPD Win mockup image
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Pandora photo
  27. ↑ 27.0 27.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  28. ↑ https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/potential-for-linux-libre-on-the-pyra.79769/#post-1405282
  29. ↑ GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software; only sound remains non-functional, although there are reports of some getting even that working.
  30. ↑ 30.0 30.1 Neo900 FAQ
  31. ↑ 31.0 31.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  32. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  33. ↑ GPD Win comments & replies
  34. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  35. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  36. ↑ 36.0 36.1 Neo900 block diagram
  37. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  38. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  39. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  40. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  41. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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