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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Yes <small>(bundled Devuan BSP)</small>, but non-free GFX driver required for 3D acceleration<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Yes <small>(bundled Devuan BSP)</small>, but non-free GFX driver required for 3D acceleration<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| No: non-free WiFi, Bluetooth, and GFX driver
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| No: non-free WiFi, Bluetooth, and GFX driver
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|Hardware Documentation
| Planned
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] license
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license
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|Android apps
|Android apps
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref>
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|Hardware Documentation
| Planned
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] license
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license
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Revision as of 01:10, 21 July 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora 1Ghz
Price ~500€ (WiFi) or ~600€ (LTE)[1] ~335€ preorder or ~445€ retail (WiFi)[2] ~1200€ (LTE)[3] n/a (EOL)
~$565 (WiFi) or ~$677 (LTE)[1] ~$377 preorder or ~$500 retail (WiFi)[2] ~$1350 (LTE)[3] n/a (EOL)
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[4] 155 mm × 96 mm × 22 mm[2] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[5] [6] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[7]
Weight ??? 300 g[2] ??? 320 g[7]
Screen size 5"[4] 5.5"[2] 3.5"[8] 4.3"[9]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px[4] 1280×720 px[2] 800×480 px[8] 800×480 px[9]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[2] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[8] Resistive (Stylus included)[4]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[10] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[11] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[12]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[4] No Yes [13] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[14] Problematic [15] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[16] Mappable Impossible[16] Impossible[16]
Keyboard keys 47[17] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[18] 38 43[19]
Face buttons 6[4] 4[2] 0 4[9]
Shoulder buttons 4[4] 4[2] 0 2[9]
Control buttons 6[17] 4[18] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[19]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[4] mini-joysticks[2] None Nubs[9]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[2] n/a Yes
Volume control Wheel[4] (digital input device: software control[5]) Buttons[2] Buttons Wheel[9] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[2] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[6] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström)
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Free/libre System provided (per DFSG)[20] No: non-free GFX driver in official OS distribution No[21] Yes (bundled Devuan BSP), but non-free GFX driver required for 3D acceleration[22] No: non-free WiFi, Bluetooth, and GFX driver
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[4] Intel Atom x7-Z87x0: 4x Intel Braswell x86_64 2.56Ghz; SSE SIMD[23] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[8] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[9]
RAM 2 or 4 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[4][24] 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[2] Dual-Channel[25] 1 GB[8] 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[9]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[4][26] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[23][27] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 200MHz[9]
Co-processor(s)
  • TI C64+ DSP[4]
  • 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz(IPU)[4]
  • Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator[4]
 None
  • TI C64x+ DSP
  • TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz[9]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[6][4] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[23] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[8] IEEE 802.11 b/g[9]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[4] Bluetooth 4.1[23] Bluetooth 4.1[8] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[9]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[4] No Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload No
OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[8]
Two SIM Slots switchable via Software[28] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
Satellite navigation (GNSS) If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[4] No If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[8] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[4] 6000mAh, ?V[2] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[9]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[29] 8 hours[2] 4-5 hours 10 hours[9]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[4] Mini-HDMI (type C)[2] TRRS Composite[30] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[9]
USB 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[4] 1x Type A 3.0[25], 1x Micro-B 2.0[2] Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[8] 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[9]
eSATA via adapter using one USB port (of two) No No No
External memory card slots[31] 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4] 1x microSD <=256GiB[2] No 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[9]
Internal memory card slots[31] 1x microSDXC <=256GiB[4] No 1x microSDXC <=256GiB No
Embedded storage 32 GB eMMC[4] 64 GB eMMC[2] 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[8] 512 MB NAND[9]
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[8] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[8] No
NFC No No Yes[8][32] No
Shipping month No earlier than July[33] October No earlier than July[34] n/a
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Forum thread: Finalizing everything!
  2. ↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 2.19 GPD Win specification
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
  4. ↑ 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 4.19 4.20 4.21 4.22 4.23 Pyra specification
  5. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  8. ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 Neo900 specification
  9. ↑ 9.00 9.01 9.02 9.03 9.04 9.05 9.06 9.07 9.08 9.09 9.10 9.11 9.12 9.13 9.14 9.15 9.16 9.17 Pandora specification
  10. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  11. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  12. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  13. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  14. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  15. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  16. ↑ 16.0 16.1 16.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  17. ↑ 17.0 17.1 Pyra mockup image
  18. ↑ 18.0 18.1 GPD Win mockup image
  19. ↑ 19.0 19.1 Pandora photo
  20. ↑ I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded
  21. ↑ Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth
  22. ↑ Neo900 FAQ
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 23.2 23.3 GPD Win development updates
  24. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  26. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  27. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  28. ↑ Neo900 block diagram
  29. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  30. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  31. ↑ 31.0 31.1 Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
  32. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
  33. ↑ "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
  34. ↑ [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest
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