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Revision as of 03:49, 22 July 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 500 USD[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4]
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 22 mm[6] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[7] [8] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[9]
Weight ??? 300 g[6] ??? 320 g[9]
Screen size 5 in[5] 5.5 in[6] 3.5 in[10] 4.3 in[11]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px[5] 1280×720 px[6] 800×480 px[10] 800×480 px[11]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[6] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[10] Resistive (Stylus included)[4]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[12] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[13] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[14]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[5] No Yes [15] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[16] Problematic [17] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[18] Mappable Impossible[18] Impossible[18]
Keyboard keys 47[19] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[20] 38 43[21]
Face buttons 6[5] 4[6] 0 4[11]
Shoulder buttons 4[5] 4[6] 0 2[11]
Control buttons 6[19] 4[20] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[21]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[5] mini-joysticks[6] None Nubs[11]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[6] n/a Yes
Volume control Wheel[5] (digital input device: software control[5]) Buttons[6] Buttons Wheel[11] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[6] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[8] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström)
Free/libre System provided (per DFSG)[22] No: non-free GFX driver in official OS distribution No[23] Yes (bundled Devuan BSP), but non-free GFX driver required for 3D acceleration[24] No: non-free GFX driver, WiFi/Bluetooth module firmware
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8700[6] ARM Cortex-A8[10] ARM Cortex-A8[9]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core
1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[5]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[5]
None
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[9]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[9]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[6] 1 GiB[10] 256 MiB [9] 512 MiB [9]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[25] LPDDR3-1600[6] Dual-Channel[26] LPDDR DDR-333[9]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[5][27] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[28][29] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[9] SGX530 @ 200MHz[9]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[6][5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[10] IEEE 802.11 b/g[11]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 4.1[28] Bluetooth 4.1[10] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[11]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No GPRS/EDGE, WCDMA, LTE[1] No GSM/GPRS/EDGE[24], LTE or UMTS HSPA with CDMA[10] , Dual SIM[30] No
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[10] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[5] 6000mAh, ?V[6] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[11]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[31] 8 hours[6] 4-5 hours 10 hours[11]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[6] TRRS Composite[32] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[11]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[26]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[6]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[10]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[11]
eSATA via adapter using one USB port (of two) No No No
External memory card slots[33] 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[5] 1x microSD <=256GiB[6] No 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[11]
Internal memory card slots[33] 1x microSDXC <=256GiB[5] No 1x microSDXC <=256GiB No
Embedded storage 32 GB eMMC[5] 64 GB eMMC[6] 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[10] 512 MB NAND[11]
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[10] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[10] No
NFC No No Yes[10][34] No
Shipping month No earlier than July[35] October No earlier than July[36] n/a
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  3. Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 Pyra specification
  6. 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 6.20 GPD Win specification
  7. Nokia N900 technical specifications
  8. 8.0 8.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  10. 10.00 10.01 10.02 10.03 10.04 10.05 10.06 10.07 10.08 10.09 10.10 10.11 10.12 10.13 Neo900 specification
  11. 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 Pandora specification
  12. 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  13. 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  14. All are on the Hinge
  15. Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  16. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  17. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  18. 18.0 18.1 18.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  19. 19.0 19.1 Pyra mockup image
  20. 20.0 20.1 GPD Win mockup image
  21. 21.0 21.1 Pandora photo
  22. I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded
  23. Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth
  24. 24.0 24.1 Neo900 FAQ
  25. RAM Datasheet
  26. 26.0 26.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  27. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  28. 28.0 28.1 GPD Win development updates
  29. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  30. Neo900 block diagram
  31. First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  32. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  33. 33.0 33.1 Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
  34. Neo900 NFC info
  35. "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
  36. [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest