Comparison Chart: Difference between revisions

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	Pyra	GPD Win	Neo900	Pandora 1Ghz
Price	~500€[5] ~600€(LTE Version)	~266€ (crowdfund)^[1] or ~445€ (retail)	~1200€^[2]	n/a(EOL)
Price	~$565 or ~$677	~$300 or ~$500	~$1350	n/a(EOL)
Size	~140 x 84 x 29mm^[3]	155 x 96 x 20mm^[1]	111 x 60 x 20mm	140 x 83 x 27mm^[4]
Screen size	5"^[3]	5.5"^[1]	3.5"^[5]	4.3"^[4]
Screen resolution	1280x720 (720p)^[3]	1280x720 (720p)^[1]	800x480^[5]	800x480^[4]
Touchscreen	Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)	Capacitive, multitouch^[1]	Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)^[5]	Resistive (Stylus included)[6]
Notification LEDs	Total 5 RGB LEDs^[6]	Only power indicator	Total 5 RGB LEDs^[7]	6 Non-RGB LEDs^[8]
Keyboard Backlight	Yes^[3]	No	Yes ^[9]	No
Keyboard Layout	Good^[10]	Problematic ^[11]	OK	OK
Keyboard keys	47^[12] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section)	67^[13]	38	43^[14]
Face buttons	6^[3]	4^[1]	0	4^[4]
Shoulder buttons	4^[3]	4^[1]	0	2^[4]
Control buttons	6^[12]	4^[13]	4 + slider & camera cover	3 + slider^[14]
Analogue control	Nubs, clickable^[3]	mini-joysticks^[1]	None	Nubs^[4]
Volume control	Wheel^[3] (digital input device: software control[7])	Buttons^[1]	Buttons	Wheel^[4] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor	Yes	No	Yes	No
Primary Operating System	Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified)	Microsoft Windows 10^[1]	Devuan GNU/Linux (modified)	SuperZaxxon^[15]
Free/libre OS (per DFSG) default	non-free 3D graphics drivers	No	non-free 3D graphics drivers^[16]	non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi and Bluetooth
Free/libre OS (per DFSG) when running Linux	non-free 3D graphics drivers	Possibly (at least free 3D graphics drivers)^[17]	non-free 3D graphics drivers^[16]	non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth
Windows x86 compatibility	via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)	Native x86_64	via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)	via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android compatibility	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)	dualboot^[18] OR via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant)	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
Android ARM compatibility ^[19]	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)	via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant)	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)	dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
Desktop GNU/Linux compatibility	Native	dualboot^[18] OR via emulator	Native	Native
CPU	TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD^[3]	Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD^[18]	TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD^[5]	TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD^[4]
RAM	2 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel^[3]^[20]; Maybe 4Gb[8]	4 GB LPDDR3-1600^[1] Dual-Channel^[18]	1 GB^[5]	512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz^[4]
GPU	PowerVR SGX544-MP2^[3]^[21]	Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory^[18]^[22]	PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz	SGX530 @ 200MHz^[4]
Co-processor(s)	TI C64+ DSP^[3] 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz(IPU)^[3] Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator^[3]	None	TI C64x+ DSP	TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz^[4]
Wireless LAN	IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9]^[3]	IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n^[23]	IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n^[5]	IEEE 802.11 b/g^[4]
Bluetooth	Bluetooth 4.1^[3]	Bluetooth 4.1^[23]	Bluetooth 4.1^[5]	Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR^[4]
Cell modem (SIM card slot)	Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload^[3]	No	Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload	No
			OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA^[5]
			Two Sim Slots switchable via Software^[24] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
Satellite navigation (GNSS)	If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS^[3]	No	If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS^[5]	No
Upgrades	Display, CPU-Board	No	Via HackerBus in battery compartment	No
Battery	6000mAh^[3], 3.7V-4.2V?	6000mAh, ?V^[1]	1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V	4200mAh^[4], 4.2V
Battery	Removable	Non Removable	Removable	Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw)	10 hours^[25]	8 hours^[1]	4-5 hours	10 hours^[4]
Battery life (claimed, standby)	???	???	10 days	???
Video output	Micro-HDMI (type D)^[3]	Mini-HDMI (type C)^[1]	TRRS Composite^[26]	custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out^[4]
USB	2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)^[3]	1x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 2.0^[1]	Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)^[5]	1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG^[4]
eSATA	via adapter using one USB port (of two)	No	No	No
Memory card slots^[27]	2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot + 1x microSDXC <=200GiB = 1.2TiB^[3]	1x microSD <=200GiB^[1]	1x microSDXC <=200GiB	2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB^[4]
Embedded storage	32 GB eMMC^[3]	64 GB eMMC^[1]	64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND^[5]	512 MB NAND^[4]
FM radio	No	No	Rx & Tx^[5]	No
Camera	No	No	VGA front & 5 MP rear^[5]	No
NFC	No	No	Yes^[5]^[28]	No
Hardware Documentation	Planned	No	Yes	Yes
Shipping month	No earlier than July^[29]	October	No earlier than July^[30]	n/a
Main countries of manufacture	Germany, Greece	China	Germany (N900 from Finland)	Germany, UK, China

↑ ^1.00 ^1.01 ^1.02 ^1.03 ^1.04 ^1.05 ^1.06 ^1.07 ^1.08 ^1.09 ^1.10 ^1.11 ^1.12 ^1.13 ^1.14 ^1.15 ^1.16 GPD Win specification
↑ Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
↑ ^3.00 ^3.01 ^3.02 ^3.03 ^3.04 ^3.05 ^3.06 ^3.07 ^3.08 ^3.09 ^3.10 ^3.11 ^3.12 ^3.13 ^3.14 ^3.15 ^3.16 ^3.17 ^3.18 ^3.19 ^3.20 ^3.21 ^3.22 Pyra specification
↑ ^4.00 ^4.01 ^4.02 ^4.03 ^4.04 ^4.05 ^4.06 ^4.07 ^4.08 ^4.09 ^4.10 ^4.11 ^4.12 ^4.13 ^4.14 ^4.15 ^4.16 ^4.17 ^4.18 Pandora specification
↑ ^5.00 ^5.01 ^5.02 ^5.03 ^5.04 ^5.05 ^5.06 ^5.07 ^5.08 ^5.09 ^5.10 ^5.11 ^5.12 ^5.13 Neo900 specification
↑
2 on back
1 under power button
2 next to power button
↑
1 on the display
2 on the sides
1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
↑ All are on the Hinge
↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
↑ ^12.0 ^12.1 Pyra mockup image
↑ ^13.0 ^13.1 GPD Win mockup image
↑ ^14.0 ^14.1 Pandora photo
↑ derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]
↑ ^16.0 ^16.1 Neo900 FAQ
↑ This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)
↑ ^18.0 ^18.1 ^18.2 ^18.3 ^18.4 GPD Win comments & replies
↑ The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code
↑ RAM Datasheet
↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
↑ ^23.0 ^23.1 GPD Win development updates
↑ Neo900 block diagram
↑ No official statement
↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
↑ Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
↑ Neo900 NFC info
↑ "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
↑ [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest

[gpdwin_spec-1] 1.00 ^1.01 ^1.02 ^1.03 ^1.04 ^1.05 ^1.06 ^1.07 ^1.08 ^1.09 ^1.10 ^1.11 ^1.12 ^1.13 ^1.14 ^1.15 ^1.16 GPD Win specification

[neo900_price-2] Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding

[pyra_spec-3] 3.00 ^3.01 ^3.02 ^3.03 ^3.04 ^3.05 ^3.06 ^3.07 ^3.08 ^3.09 ^3.10 ^3.11 ^3.12 ^3.13 ^3.14 ^3.15 ^3.16 ^3.17 ^3.18 ^3.19 ^3.20 ^3.21 ^3.22 Pyra specification

[pandora_spec-4] 4.00 ^4.01 ^4.02 ^4.03 ^4.04 ^4.05 ^4.06 ^4.07 ^4.08 ^4.09 ^4.10 ^4.11 ^4.12 ^4.13 ^4.14 ^4.15 ^4.16 ^4.17 ^4.18 Pandora specification

[neo900_spec-5] 5.00 ^5.01 ^5.02 ^5.03 ^5.04 ^5.05 ^5.06 ^5.07 ^5.08 ^5.09 ^5.10 ^5.11 ^5.12 ^5.13 Neo900 specification

[6] 
2 on back
1 under power button
2 next to power button

[7] 
1 on the display
2 on the sides
1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)

[8] All are on the Hinge

[9] Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]

[10] Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)

[gpdwin_issue-11] The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]

[pyra_mockup-12] 12.0 ^12.1 Pyra mockup image

[gpdwin_mockup-13] 13.0 ^13.1 GPD Win mockup image

[pandora_photo-14] 14.0 ^14.1 Pandora photo

[15] rived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]

[neo900_faq-16] 16.0 ^16.1 Neo900 FAQ

[17] This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)

[gpdwin_comment-18] 18.0 ^18.1 ^18.2 ^18.3 ^18.4 GPD Win comments & replies

[19] The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code

[20] RAM Datasheet

[21] PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks

[22] Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks

[gpdwin_updates-23] 23.0 ^23.1 GPD Win development updates

[24] Neo900 block diagram

[25] No official statement

[26] Like the N900, per IRC discussion.

[availablesizes-27] Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.

[28] Neo900 NFC info

[29] "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."

[30] [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest

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 |'''Pandora 1Ghz'''
 |-
-|Price (EUR)
+|rowspan="2"| Price
-| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~500-600
+| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~500€[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/finalizing-everything.77289/]
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~265 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~445 (retail)
+~600€(LTE Version)
-| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1200<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~266€ (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~445€ (retail)
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1200€<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>
 | n/a(EOL)
 |-
-|Price (USD)
+| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~$565 or ~$677
-| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~565-677
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~$300 or ~$500
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~300 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~500 (retail)
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~$1350
-| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1350<ref name="neo900_price"/>
 | n/a(EOL)
 |-
@@ Line 100: / Line 100: @@
 | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing -->
 |-
-|Keyboard Layout (QWERTY)
+| Keyboard Backlight
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
+| style="background-color: pink"| No
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref>
+| style="background-color: pink"| No
+|-
+|Keyboard Layout
 |style="background-color: palegreen"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref>
 |style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" />
@@ Line 106: / Line 112: @@
 |style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK
 |-
 <!--
 |Keyboard Layout (Dvorak)
 |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible
@@ Line 113: / Line 119: @@
 |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible
 |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible
+Removing this as an Dvorak Keyboard Layout on an Thumb-typing Device isn't an huge advantage and would make this Table too long/Detailed; Why should this be impossible on the other Devices BTW?
+-->
-Removing this as an Dvorak Keyboard Layout on an Thumb-typing Device isn't an huge advantage and would make this Table too long/Detailed -->
-|-
-| Keyboard Backlight
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
-| style="background-color: pink"| No
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref>
-| style="background-color: pink"| No
 |-
 | Keyboard keys
@@ Line 153: / Line 154: @@
 | [[Nubs]]<ref name="pandora_spec" />
 |-
+<!--
 |Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
@@ Line 158: / Line 161: @@
 | style="background-color: pink"| n/a
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
+-->
 |-
 |Volume control
@@ Line 190: / Line 195: @@
 |-
 |Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->
-| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear)
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64
-| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear)
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
-| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear)
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
 |-
 |Android compatibility
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 |rowspan="2"|Battery
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh<ref name="pyra_spec" />, 3.7V-4.2V?
-|rowspan="2" style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
 | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V
 | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4200mAh<ref name="pandora_spec" />, 4.2V
 |-
 |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
+|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable
 |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
 |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
@@ Line 318: / Line 324: @@
 | style="background-color: pink"| No
 |-
-|External memory card slots<ref name="availablesizes"/>
+|Memory card slots<ref name="availablesizes"/>
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = '''1TiB'''<ref name="pyra_spec" />
+| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot + 1x microSDXC <=200GiB = '''1.2TiB'''<ref name="pyra_spec" />
 | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1x microSD <='''200GiB'''<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
-| style="background-color: pink"| No
+| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1x microSDXC <='''200GiB'''
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = '''1TiB'''<ref name="pandora_spec" />
 |-
-|Internal memory card slots<ref name="availablesizes"/>
+<!-- Removed "Internal SD Card Slots"; GPD's MicroSD is accessible from the Outside BTW -->
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1x microSDXC <='''200GiB'''<ref name="pyra_spec" />
-| style="background-color: pink"| No
-| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1x microSDXC <='''200GiB'''
-| style="background-color: pink"| No
-|-
 |Embedded storage
 | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 32 GB eMMC<ref name="pyra_spec" />
@@ Line 355: / Line 356: @@
 |-
 |Hardware Documentation
-| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Planned
+| Planned
 | style="background-color: pink"| No
 | style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes]

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