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(An Small attemp to clean this thing up [https://www.pyra-handheld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Comparison_Chart (See the Discussion)]) |
(Moving Detailed LED description to references; Cleaning things up here and there; Add the posibility for 4Gb of ram on the Pyra;) |
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|Touchscreen | |Touchscreen | ||
<!-- Touchscreen Types are too subjective to give a rating. Sure resistive is better for Desktop usage, but win10 is optimized for Cpacitive Touchscreens --> | |||
| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<!-- uses same part as Neo900 --> | |||
| Capacitive, multitouch<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> | |||
| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | |||
| Resistive (Stylus included)[http://pandorawiki.org/Display] | |||
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|Notification LEDs | |Notification LEDs | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref><br>2 on back<br>1 under power button<br>2 next to power button</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| Only power indicator | | style="background-color: pink"| Only power indicator | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref><br>1 on the display<br>2 on the sides<br>1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)<br>1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing --> | ||
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|Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) | |Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref> | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref> | ||
|style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" /> | |style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" /> | ||
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | |style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | ||
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | |style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK | ||
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|Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) | |Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) | ||
|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | ||
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|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | ||
|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible | ||
Removing this as an Dvorak Keyboard Layout on an Thumb-typing Device isn't an huge advantage and would make this Table too long/Detailed --> | |||
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| Keyboard Backlight | | Keyboard Backlight | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | | style="background-color: pink"| No | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | | style="background-color: pink"| No | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<ref name="neo900_faq" /> | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<ref name="neo900_faq" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth | ||
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|Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" --> | |Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" --> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | ||
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|Android ARM compatibility < | |Android ARM compatibility <ref>The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code </ref> | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | ||
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|RAM | |RAM | ||
| 2 GB [[RAM|DDR3L]]-533 Dual-Channel<ref name="pyra_spec" /><ref>[http://www.intelligentmemory.com/fileadmin/pdf-datasheets/IM4G08-16D3FABG1.2-0821.pdf RAM Datasheet]</ref>; Maybe 4Gb[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/finalizing-everything.77289/] | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 GB LPDDR3-1600<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> Dual-Channel<ref name="gpdwin_comment" /> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 GB LPDDR3-1600<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> Dual-Channel<ref name="gpdwin_comment" /> | ||
<!-- Not sure if really LPDDR3-1600 --> | |||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 GB<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 GB<ref name="neo900_spec" /> | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz<ref name="pandora_spec" /> | ||
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref> | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref> | ||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | | style="background-color: pink"| No | ||
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|Hardware Documentation | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Planned | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes] | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes | |||
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| Shipping month | | Shipping month | ||
Revision as of 18:03, 23 April 2016
| Pyra | GPD Win | Neo900 | Pandora 1Ghz | |
| Price (EUR) | ~500-600 | ~265 (crowdfund)[1] or ~445 (retail) | ~1200[2] | n/a(EOL) |
| Price (USD) | ~565-677 | ~300 (crowdfund)[1] or ~500 (retail) | ~1350[2] | n/a(EOL) |
| Size | ~140 x 84 x 29mm[3] | 155 x 96 x 20mm[1] | 111 x 60 x 20mm | 140 x 83 x 27mm[4] |
| Screen size | 5"[3] | 5.5"[1] | 3.5"[5] | 4.3"[4] |
| Screen resolution | 1280x720 (720p)[3] | 1280x720 (720p)[1] | 800x480[5] | 800x480[4] |
| Touchscreen | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) | Capacitive, multitouch[1] | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[5] | Resistive (Stylus included)[5] |
| Notification LEDs | Total 5 RGB LEDs[6] | Only power indicator | Total 5 RGB LEDs[7] | 6 Non-RGB LEDs[8] |
| Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) | Good[9] | Problematic [10] | OK | OK |
| Keyboard Backlight | Yes[3] | No | Yes [11] | No |
| Keyboard keys | 47[12] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) | 67[13] | 38 | 43[14] |
| Face buttons | 6[3] | 4[1] | 0 | 4[4] |
| Shoulder buttons | 4[3] | 4[1] | 0 | 2[4] |
| Control buttons | 6[12] | 4[13] | 4 + slider & camera cover | 3 + slider[14] |
| Analogue control | Nubs, clickable[3] | mini-joysticks[1] | None | Nubs[4] |
| Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls | Yes | No (tentative)[1] | n/a | Yes |
| Volume control | Wheel[3] (digital input device: software control[6]) | Buttons[1] | Buttons | Wheel[4] (direct hardware control) |
| Vibration motor | Yes | No | Yes | No |
| Primary Operating System | Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified) | Microsoft Windows 10[1] | Devuan GNU/Linux (modified) | SuperZaxxon[15] |
| Free/libre OS (per DFSG) default | non-free 3D graphics drivers | No | non-free 3D graphics drivers[16] | non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi and Bluetooth |
| Free/libre OS (per DFSG) when running Linux | non-free 3D graphics drivers | Possibly (at least free 3D graphics drivers)[17] | non-free 3D graphics drivers[16] | non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth |
| Windows x86 compatibility | via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear) | Native x86_64 | via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear) | via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear) |
| Android compatibility | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot[18] OR via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) |
| Android ARM compatibility [19] | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) |
| Desktop GNU/Linux compatibility | Native | dualboot[18] OR via emulator | Native | Native |
| CPU | TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[3] | Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD[18] | TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[5] | TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[4] |
| RAM | 2 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[3][20]; Maybe 4Gb[7] | 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[1] Dual-Channel[18] | 1 GB[5] | 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[4] |
| GPU | PowerVR SGX544-MP2[3][21] | Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory[18][22] | PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz | SGX530 @ 200MHz[4] |
| Co-processor(s) |
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| Wireless LAN | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[8][3] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[23] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[5] | IEEE 802.11 b/g[4] |
| Bluetooth | Bluetooth 4.1[3] | Bluetooth 4.1[23] | Bluetooth 4.1[5] | Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[4] |
| Cell modem (SIM card slot) | Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[3] | No | Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload | No |
| OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[5] | ||||
| Two Sim Slots switchable via Software[24] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard | ||||
| Satellite navigation (GNSS) | If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[3] | No | If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] | No |
| Upgrades | Display, CPU-Board | No | Via HackerBus in battery compartment | No |
| Battery | 6000mAh[3], 3.7V-4.2V? | 6000mAh, ?V[1] | 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V | 4200mAh[4], 4.2V |
| Removable | Removable | Removable | ||
| Battery life (claimed, high power draw) | 10 hours[25] | 8 hours[1] | 4-5 hours | 10 hours[4] |
| Battery life (claimed, standby) | ??? | ??? | 10 days | ??? |
| Video output | Micro-HDMI (type D)[3] | Mini-HDMI (type C)[1] | TRRS Composite[26] | custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[4] |
| USB | 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[3] | 1x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 2.0[1] | Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[5] | 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[4] |
| eSATA | via adapter using one USB port (of two) | No | No | No |
| External memory card slots[27] | 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[3] | 1x microSD <=200GiB[1] | No | 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4] |
| Internal memory card slots[27] | 1x microSDXC <=200GiB[3] | No | 1x microSDXC <=200GiB | No |
| Embedded storage | 32 GB eMMC[3] | 64 GB eMMC[1] | 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[5] | 512 MB NAND[4] |
| FM radio | No | No | Rx & Tx[5] | No |
| Camera | No | No | VGA front & 5 MP rear[5] | No |
| NFC | No | No | Yes[5][28] | No |
| Hardware Documentation | Planned | No | Yes | Yes |
| Shipping month | No earlier than July[29] | October | No earlier than July[30] | n/a |
| Main countries of manufacture | Germany, Greece | China | Germany (N900 from Finland) | Germany, UK, China |
- ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 GPD Win specification
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
- ↑ 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 3.18 3.19 3.20 3.21 3.22 3.23 Pyra specification
- ↑ 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 Pandora specification
- ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 Neo900 specification
- ↑
2 on back
1 under power button
2 next to power button - ↑
1 on the display
2 on the sides
1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open) - ↑ All are on the Hinge
- ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
- ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [1] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[2]
- ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[3]
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 Pyra mockup image
- ↑ 13.0 13.1 GPD Win mockup image
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 Pandora photo
- ↑ derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]
- ↑ 16.0 16.1 Neo900 FAQ
- ↑ This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)
- ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 18.3 18.4 GPD Win comments & replies
- ↑ The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code
- ↑ RAM Datasheet
- ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
- ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
- ↑ 23.0 23.1 GPD Win development updates
- ↑ Neo900 block diagram
- ↑ No official statement
- ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
- ↑ 27.0 27.1 Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
- ↑ Neo900 NFC info
- ↑ "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
- ↑ [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest
