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!Modem system isolation/monitoring<ref>Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at [http://www.replicant.us/freedom-privacy-security-issues.php Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page] and [https://www.pubpub.org/pub/direct-radio-introspection/ Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub].</ref>
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| colspan="2" style="background-color: palegreen"| USB interface, hardware power kill Switche, and Current monitoring [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/poll-vote-now-1-3g-paranoia-discussing-solutions.73805/page-7#post-1396371]
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
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!Modem system isolation/monitoring<ref>Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at [http://www.replicant.us/freedom-privacy-security-issues.php Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page] and [https://www.pubpub.org/pub/direct-radio-introspection/ Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub].</ref>
| colspan="2"| n/a
| colspan="2" style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/poll-vote-now-1-3g-paranoia-discussing-solutions.73805/page-7#post-1396371][https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/poll-vote-now-1-3g-paranoia-discussing-solutions.73805/page-7#post-1396381]
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
| colspan="3"| n/a
| style="background-color: pink"| No?
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!Upgrades
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Revision as of 11:48, 23 October 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] ∼455 EUR ∼1200 EUR[2] 126,05 EUR[3] 184,87 EUR[3] 310,92 EUR[3]
∼550 USD ∼580 USD ∼660 USD ∼685 USD 500 USD[4] ∼1320 USD ∼140 USD ∼205 USD ∼340 USD
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes, started shipping to some customers[4] Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017[5] 2016-10[4] 2017? Released[3] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[6][7] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[8][9] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[10]
Weight ??? 300 g[6] ??? 320 g[10]
Screen size 5 in[5] 5.5 in[6] 3.5 in[11] 4.3 in[12] 6.4 in[13]
Screen resolution 1280x720 px (294 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[6][5] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[6] 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[11] 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[12] 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)[13]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[6] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[11] Resistive (Stylus included)[7]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[14] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[15] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[16]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[5] No Yes [17] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[18] Problematic [19] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[20] Mappable Impossible[20] Impossible[20]
Keyboard keys 47[21] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[22] 38 43[23] 49 ?[13]
Face buttons 6[5] 4[6] 0 4[12] 0[13]
Shoulder buttons 4[5] 4[6] 0 2[12] 0 ?[13]
Control buttons 6[21] 4[22] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[23] 0 ?[13]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[5] mini-joysticks[6] None Nubs[12] None[13]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[6] n/a Yes n/a
Volume control Wheel[5] (digital input device: software control[8]) Buttons[6] Buttons Wheel[12] (direct hardware control) No ?[13]
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[6] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[9] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Swordfish[13]
Non‐Free Software included[24]
  • GFX driver
  • Operating System
 None
  • GFX driver
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Non‐Free Software required[24]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
 Unknown
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration[25]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8700[6] ARM Cortex-A8[11] ARM Cortex-A8[10] Qualcomm Kryo[13]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core 24 cores
1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2.x GHz ?[26]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[5]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[5]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[10]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[10]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[6] 1 GiB[11] 256 MiB [10] 512 MiB [10] 18 GiB[13]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[27] LPDDR3-1600[6] Dual-Channel[28] LPDDR DDR-333[10] LPDDR4X[13]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[5][29] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[7][30] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[10] SGX530 @ 200MHz[10] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?[26]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9][5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[11] IEEE 802.11 b/g[12]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[11] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[12]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[11]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[25]
  • Dual SIM[31]
 No
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[11] No
Modem system isolation/monitoring[32] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[10][11] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[31] n/a No?
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[5] 6900mAh, ?V[7] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[12]
  • 3600mAh Graphene[13]
  • 2400mAh LiIon[13]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[13]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable Non Removable ?[13]
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[33] 8 hours[6] 4-5 hours 10 hours[12]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[6] TRRS Composite[34] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[12]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[28]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[6]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[11]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[12]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[5]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[6]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[11]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[5]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[6]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[12]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[35] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 1280 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[11] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[11] No 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[13]
NFC No No Yes[11][36] No
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 Pyra specification
  6. ↑ 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 GPD Win specification
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 GPD Win development updates
  8. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 10.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  11. ↑ 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 Neo900 specification
  12. ↑ 12.00 12.01 12.02 12.03 12.04 12.05 12.06 12.07 12.08 12.09 12.10 12.11 12.12 12.13 Pandora specification
  13. ↑ 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 13.14 13.15 13.16 13.17 13.18 13.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  14. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  15. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  16. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  17. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  18. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  19. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 Pyra mockup image
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 GPD Win mockup image
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 Pandora photo
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 Neo900 FAQ
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  27. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  28. ↑ 28.0 28.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  29. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  30. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  31. ↑ 31.0 31.1 Neo900 block diagram
  32. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  33. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  34. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  35. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  36. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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