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(Rearranged columns to deemphasise the Chaconne-- this is the Pyra's comparison chart, after all, so the Pyra should come first. GPD WIN is the closest competitor for now, Neo900 shares team members, Pandora is predecessor, Chaconne is vapourware.)
(Updated status and ETA (based on my own expectations).)
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!Status & credibility
!Status & credibility
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| Prototypes touched by public, videos
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Prototypes touched by public, videos, started shipping to some customers[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/gpd-is-going-to-release-an-x86-console-palmtop-computer.76762/page-75#post-1393162]
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes, started shipping to some customers[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/gpd-is-going-to-release-an-x86-console-palmtop-computer.76762/page-75#post-1393162]
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Money troubles (bad), shares some staff with Pyra (good), seems wobbly
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand
| style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware
| style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware
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! Estimated shipping date
! Estimated shipping date
| colspan="4"| 2016<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| colspan="4"| 2017?
| 2016-10<ref name="gpdwin_igg" />
| 2016-10<ref name="gpdwin_igg" />
| 2016-Q3<ref name="neo900_shop" />
| 2017?
| colspan="3"| n/a<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| colspan="3"| Released<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| 2018
| 2018
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Revision as of 22:12, 18 October 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] ∼455 EUR ∼1200 EUR[2] 126,05 EUR[3] 184,87 EUR[3] 310,92 EUR[3]
∼550 USD ∼580 USD ∼660 USD ∼685 USD 500 USD[4] ∼1320 USD ∼140 USD ∼205 USD ∼340 USD
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes, started shipping to some customers[4] Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017? 2016-10[4] 2017? Released[3] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[6][7] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[8][9] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[10]
Weight ??? 300 g[6] ??? 320 g[10]
Screen size 5 in[5] 5.5 in[6] 3.5 in[11] 4.3 in[12] 6.4 in[13]
Screen resolution 1280x720 px (294 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[5][5] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[6] 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[11] 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[12] 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)[13]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[6] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[11] Resistive (Stylus included)[6]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[14] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[15] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[16]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[5] No Yes [17] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[18] Problematic [19] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[20] Mappable Impossible[20] Impossible[20]
Keyboard keys 47[21] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[22] 38 43[23] 49 ?[13]
Face buttons 6[5] 4[6] 0 4[12] 0[13]
Shoulder buttons 4[5] 4[6] 0 2[12] 0 ?[13]
Control buttons 6[21] 4[22] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[23] 0 ?[13]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[5] mini-joysticks[6] None Nubs[12] None[13]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[6] n/a Yes n/a
Volume control Wheel[5] (digital input device: software control[7]) Buttons[6] Buttons Wheel[12] (direct hardware control) No ?[13]
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[6] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[9] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Swordfish[13]
Non‐Free Software included[24]
  • GFX driver
  • Operating System
 None
  • GFX driver
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Non‐Free Software required[24]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
 Unknown
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration[25]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Modem system isolation/monitoring[26] n/a USB interface, hardware power kill switch n/a USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[27] n/a
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8700[6] ARM Cortex-A8[11] ARM Cortex-A8[10] Qualcomm Kryo[13]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core 24 cores
1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2.x GHz ?[28]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[5]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[5]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[10]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[10]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[6] 1 GiB[11] 256 MiB [10] 512 MiB [10] 18 GiB[13]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[29] LPDDR3-1600[6] Dual-Channel[30] LPDDR DDR-333[10] LPDDR4X[13]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[5][31] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[7][32] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[10] SGX530 @ 200MHz[10] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?[28]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[8][5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[11] IEEE 802.11 b/g[12]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[11] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[12]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[11]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[25]
  • Dual SIM[27]
 No
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[11] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[5] 6900mAh, ?V[7] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[12]
  • 3600mAh Graphene[13]
  • 2400mAh LiIon[13]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[13]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable Non Removable ?[13]
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[33] 8 hours[6] 4-5 hours 10 hours[12]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[6] TRRS Composite[34] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[12]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[30]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[6]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[11]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[12]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[5]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[6]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[11]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[5]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[6]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[12]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[35] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 1280 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[11] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[11] No 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[13]
NFC No No Yes[11][36] No
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 Pyra specification
  6. ↑ 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 GPD Win specification
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 GPD Win development updates
  8. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 10.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  11. ↑ 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 Neo900 specification
  12. ↑ 12.00 12.01 12.02 12.03 12.04 12.05 12.06 12.07 12.08 12.09 12.10 12.11 12.12 12.13 Pandora specification
  13. ↑ 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 13.14 13.15 13.16 13.17 13.18 13.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  14. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  15. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  16. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  17. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  18. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  19. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 Pyra mockup image
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 GPD Win mockup image
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 Pandora photo
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  25. ↑ 25.0 25.1 Neo900 FAQ
  26. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  27. ↑ 27.0 27.1 Neo900 block diagram
  28. ↑ 28.0 28.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  29. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  30. ↑ 30.0 30.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  31. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  32. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  33. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  34. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  35. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  36. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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