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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 626,05 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 626,05 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 500 USD<ref name="gpdwin_igg"/>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 500 USD<ref name="gpdwin_igg"/>
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ∼1200 EUR<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ∼1200 EUR<ref name="neo900_shop" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 126,05 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 126,05 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
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| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
|-
|-
! Shipping month
! Estimated shipping date
| colspan="4"| No earlier than July<ref>[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/bugs-and-calculations.77212/#post-1372777 "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."]</ref>
| colspan="4"| 2016<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| October
| 2016-10<ref name="gpdwin_igg" />
| No earlier than July<ref>[14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest</ref>
| 2016-Q3<ref name="neo900_shop" />
| colspan="3"| n/a
| colspan="3"| n/a<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
|-
|-
!Main countries of manufacture
!Main countries of manufacture
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<ref name="neo900_faq">[http://neo900.org/faq Neo900 FAQ]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_faq">[http://neo900.org/faq Neo900 FAQ]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_diagram">[http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html Neo900 block diagram]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_diagram">[http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html Neo900 block diagram]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_shop">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product Store says PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop]</ref>
<ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015">Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). [https://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/ “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”]. ''Chaos Communication Camp 2015''.</ref>
<ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015">Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). [https://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/ “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”]. ''Chaos Communication Camp 2015''.</ref>
<ref name="pandora_spec">[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora specification]</ref>
<ref name="pandora_spec">[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora specification]</ref>

Revision as of 04:11, 24 July 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 500 USD[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4]
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 22 mm[6] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[7] [8] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[9]
Weight ??? 300 g[6] ??? 320 g[9]
Screen size 5 in[5] 5.5 in[6] 3.5 in[10] 4.3 in[11]
Screen resolution 1280×720 px (294 px∕in)[5] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in)[6] 800×480 px (267 px∕in)[10] 800×480 px (217 px∕in)[11]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[6] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[10] Resistive (Stylus included)[4]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[12] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[13] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[14]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[5] No Yes [15] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[16] Problematic [17] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[18] Mappable Impossible[18] Impossible[18]
Keyboard keys 47[19] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[20] 38 43[21]
Face buttons 6[5] 4[6] 0 4[11]
Shoulder buttons 4[5] 4[6] 0 2[11]
Control buttons 6[19] 4[20] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[21]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[5] mini-joysticks[6] None Nubs[11]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[6] n/a Yes
Volume control Wheel[5] (digital input device: software control[5]) Buttons[6] Buttons Wheel[11] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[6] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[8] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström)
Free/libre System provided (per DFSG)[22] No: non-free GFX driver in official OS distribution No[23] Yes (bundled Devuan BSP), but non-free GFX driver required for 3D acceleration[24] No: non-free GFX driver, WiFi/Bluetooth module firmware
Modem system isolation[25] n/a USB interface, hardware power kill switch n/a USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[26] n/a
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8700[6] ARM Cortex-A8[10] ARM Cortex-A8[9]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core
1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[5]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[5]
 None
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[9]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[9]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[6] 1 GiB[10] 256 MiB [9] 512 MiB [9]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[27] LPDDR3-1600[6] Dual-Channel[28] LPDDR DDR-333[9]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[5][29] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[30][31] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[9] SGX530 @ 200MHz[9]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[6][5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[10] IEEE 802.11 b/g[11]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 4.1[30] Bluetooth 4.1[10] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[11]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
 No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[10]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[24]
  • Dual SIM[26]
 No
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[10] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[5] 6000mAh, ?V[6] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[11]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[32] 8 hours[6] 4-5 hours 10 hours[11]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[6] TRRS Composite[33] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[11]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[28]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[6]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[10]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[11]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[5]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[6]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[10]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[5]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[6]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[11]
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[34] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[10] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[10] No
NFC No No Yes[10][35] No
Estimated shipping date 2016[1] 2016-10[2] 2016-Q3[3] n/a[4]
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 Store says PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 Pyra specification
  6. ↑ 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 6.20 GPD Win specification
  7. ↑ Nokia N900 technical specifications
  8. ↑ 8.0 8.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  10. ↑ 10.00 10.01 10.02 10.03 10.04 10.05 10.06 10.07 10.08 10.09 10.10 10.11 10.12 10.13 Neo900 specification
  11. ↑ 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 Pandora specification
  12. ↑ 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  13. ↑ 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  14. ↑ All are on the Hinge
  15. ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  16. ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  17. ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  18. ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  19. ↑ 19.0 19.1 Pyra mockup image
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 GPD Win mockup image
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 Pandora photo
  22. ↑ I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded
  23. ↑ Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth
  24. ↑ 24.0 24.1 Neo900 FAQ
  25. ↑ Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs freedom and privacy/security issues page.
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Neo900 block diagram
  27. ↑ RAM Datasheet
  28. ↑ 28.0 28.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  29. ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  30. ↑ 30.0 30.1 GPD Win development updates
  31. ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  32. ↑ First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  33. ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  34. ↑ By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  35. ↑ Neo900 NFC info
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