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|Free/libre System provided (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG])<ref>I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded</ref>
|Free/libre System provided (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG])<ref>I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, and modem firmware
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<!-- , and modem firmware -- hmmm, is the firmware modifiable? According to RMS, if the firmware is not meant to be updated as part of the normal use of the device, then it does not matter if source code is provided, otherwise things get much much worse when one considers HDD firmware, microcode etc. -->
| Unknown<!-- We don't know if their BIOS is OpenSource, which is at least needed for an Free/Libre System--><ref>Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth</ref>
| style="background-color: pink"| Unlikely ("no news" is "bad news")<!-- We don't know if their BIOS is OpenSource, which is at least needed for an Free/Libre System--><ref>Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, and modem firmware<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<!-- , and modem firmware -- hmmm, is the firmware modifiable? According to RMS, if the firmware is not meant to be updated as part of the normal use of the device, then it does not matter if source code is provided, otherwise, things get much much worse when one considers HDD firmware, microcode etc. --><ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics, WiFi and Bluetooth
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics, WiFi and Bluetooth
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Revision as of 00:17, 17 May 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora 1Ghz
Price ~500€ (WiFi) or ~600€ (LTE)[1] ~285€ preorder or ~445€ retail (WiFi)[2] ~1200€ (LTE)[3] n/a (EOL)
~$565 (WiFi) or ~$677 (LTE)[1] ~$330 preorder or ~$500 retail (WiFi)[2] ~$1350 (LTE)[3] n/a (EOL)
Size 139 x 87 x 32mm[4] 155 x 96 x 20mm[2] 111 x 60 x 20mm 140 x 83 x 27mm[5]
Screen size 5"[4] 5.5"[2] 3.5"[6] 4.3"[5]
Screen resolution 1280x720 (720p)[4] 1280x720 (720p)[2] 800x480[6] 800x480[5]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[2] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[6] Resistive (Stylus included)[5]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[7] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[8] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[9]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[4] No Yes [10] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[11] Problematic [12] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[13] Mappable Impossible[13] Impossible[13]
Keyboard keys 47[14] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[15] 38 43[16]
Face buttons 6[4] 4[2] 0 4[5]
Shoulder buttons 4[4] 4[2] 0 2[5]
Control buttons 6[14] 4[15] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[16]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[4] mini-joysticks[2] None Nubs[5]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[2] n/a Yes
Volume control Wheel[4] (digital input device: software control[6]) Buttons[2] Buttons Wheel[5] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified) Microsoft Windows 10[2] Devuan GNU/Linux (modified) SuperZaxxon[17]
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Free/libre System provided (per DFSG)[18] non-free 3D graphics drivers Unlikely ("no news" is "bad news")[19] non-free 3D graphics drivers[20] non-free 3D graphics, WiFi and Bluetooth
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[4] Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD[21] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[6] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[5]
RAM 2 or 4 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[4][22] 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[2] Dual-Channel[21] 1 GB[6] 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[5]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[4][23] Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory[21][24] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 200MHz[5]
Co-processor(s)
  • TI C64+ DSP[4]
  • 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz(IPU)[4]
  • Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator[4]
None
  • TI C64x+ DSP
  • TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz[5]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[7][4] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[25] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 b/g[5]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[4] Bluetooth 4.1[25] Bluetooth 4.1[6] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[5]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[4] No Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload No
OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[6]
Two SIM Slots switchable via Software[26] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
Satellite navigation (GNSS) If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[4] No If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[6] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh[4], 3.7V-4.2V? 6000mAh, ?V[2] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh[5], 4.2V
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 10 hours[27] 8 hours[2] 4-5 hours 10 hours[5]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[4] Mini-HDMI (type C)[2] TRRS Composite[28] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[5]
USB 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[4] 1x Type A 3.0[29], 1x Micro-B 2.0[2] Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[6] 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[5]
eSATA via adapter using one USB port (of two) No No No
External memory card slots[30] 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4] 1x microSD <=200GiB[2] No 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[5]
Internal memory card slots[30] 1x microSDXC <=200GiB[4] No 1x microSDXC <=200GiB No
Embedded storage 32 GB eMMC[4] 64 GB eMMC[2] 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[6] 512 MB NAND[5]
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[6] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[6] No
NFC No No Yes[6][31] No
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes Yes
Shipping month No earlier than July[32] October No earlier than July[33] n/a
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. 1.0 1.1 Forum thread: Finalizing everything!
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 GPD Win specification
  3. 3.0 3.1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 4.19 4.20 4.21 4.22 4.23 Pyra specification
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 Pandora specification
  6. 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 Neo900 specification
  7. 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  8. 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  9. All are on the Hinge
  10. Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  11. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  12. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  14. 14.0 14.1 Pyra mockup image
  15. 15.0 15.1 GPD Win mockup image
  16. 16.0 16.1 Pandora photo
  17. derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]
  18. I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded
  19. Android is promised, but this depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS, WiFi and Bluetooth
  20. Neo900 FAQ
  21. 21.0 21.1 21.2 GPD Win comments & replies
  22. RAM Datasheet
  23. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  24. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  25. 25.0 25.1 GPD Win development updates
  26. Neo900 block diagram
  27. No official statement
  28. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  29. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named gpdwin_comments
  30. 30.0 30.1 Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
  31. Neo900 NFC info
  32. "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
  33. [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest