Xgp = Vaporware?


That is what most of us here think, but we will never know for sure unless their domain expires. If I was in there place, I would have started manufacturing accessories for the GP2X :D
 
The hardware they were going to use would also look a bit dated now, the most recent info I have (from late last year) is that they have no money and can't make the XGP.

(I know people on here have said otherwise) but all the 'talent' went to GP Holdings and I think the fact the GP2X exists is testament to that.
 
it would of been kind of fun a having "console war: friendly edition" but now at least all the devs will be with the 2x!!

i would like to see gp3x or gp64 or gph32 or whatever but a next gen gp2x (im thinking n64+psONE+gba fullspeed emus :D )
 
I am more greedy, I want to run an 8086 emulator and be at least as stable as the first P3 PC :D
Edit: BTW purple_goat, I guess GBA fullspeed is coming soon to our GP2X, all we have to do is be patient.
 
The hardware they were going to use would also look a bit dated now, the most recent info I have (from late last year) is that they have no money and can't make the XGP.
Well, they were supposedly trying to update the specs to be more competitive since development took longer than expected. But, of course, if they just keep updating the specs because of delays, the things will never be released.

(I know people on here have said otherwise) but all the 'talent' went to GP Holdings and I think the fact the GP2X exists is testament to that.
Gamepark told me otherwise in an e-mail that I've posted on this forum at but I don't know the truth. Obviously neither side is going to admit their "talent" was lost. :p
 
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I'd love to see someone, anyone make available an open, Linux-based handheld based upon the Freescale i.MX31 SoC:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/p...sp?code=i.MX31#

The chip is US$20.77 in 1K+ quantities. Even if GPH used the same LCD, case, ports, slots, etc. to save money and just updated the circuit board to use this chip and just slapped on a new label (GP3X?), I'd buy one in an instant. Of course, there'd be some costs involved for them to do this (firmware rewrite, PCB design, etc.), but I think such a powerful open source handheld would attract a lot of attention.
 
^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.
 
^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.

I don't know anyone who has developed for it, I was just impressed with everything I read in the technical PDFs they have for download:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/o...0506VANITYIMX31

It certainly seems to be a lot more capable than the fairly ancient MP2520F SoC currently used. This is the most recent SoC that I know of that seems somewhat appropriate for a gaming handheld. Is there something newer?
 
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^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.
Craig, do you mean the current version of the XGP that GP made or the IMX31 chip?

Ah. Perhaps his comment wasn't in response to mine.

Here's a link to a brochure on the i.MX31:

http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/f...C9328MX31FS.pdf

Looks fairly impressive for such a cheap, low-power all-in-one chip.

"532 MHz ARM1136JF-S. 3-D graphics processing unit (GPU) that provides an incredible 1 MTri/sec (double textured, bi-linear, Gouraud shaded)... It offers full scene anti-aliasing for superior image quality and provides OpenGL ES and Java Mobile 3-D support."

Plus, it integrates the USB and TV interfaces into the chip which should reduce the parts count compared to the current GP2X hardware.

No, I don't sell these or have anything to do with anyone who does. It's just a nifty chip, IMHO.
 
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The hardware they were going to use would also look a bit dated now, the most recent info I have (from late last year) is that they have no money and can't make the XGP.

(I know people on here have said otherwise) but all the 'talent' went to GP Holdings and I think the fact the GP2X exists is testament to that.
What, that one intern engineer who doesn't know how to design a thing :rolleyes:

^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.
I assume you don't mean the i.mx31. It's more than twice the GP2x in raw power, and it has a 3D accelerator.
 
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I think we'll see them eventually merge back into one, or both go bankrupt/move into another area. Their split seems a bit silly anyway - they are both headed in the same direction and isn't the main shareholder in both companies the same person or something?
 
How does the i.MX31 compare to other chips for 2d acceleration? I don't understand how it could double the power of the gp2x... is it an 800mhz proccesor? I know that the second core is hard to use but it is still usable.
 
Their split seems a bit silly anyway - they are both headed in the same direction and isn't the main shareholder in both companies the same person or something?

Not really. In the beginning they were headed in different directions.

The guys that are now GPH wanted an inexpensive GP32 successor with many of the same features such as 4:3 screen, digital stick, easy to get AA battery etc. They mostly wanted it to be good for emus and homebrew, basically a buffed-up GP32.

Gamepark wanted to do a more expensive PSP clone with a widescreen, 3D, custom battery and analog controls. This would be not as well suited for emus but aimed more for commercial titles. It wasn't until recently that they flip-flopped and decided to make it more GP2X-like and HB friendly. They probably finally realized that they had absolutely no chance in the commercial market against Sony and Nintendo.
 
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I am well aware of the original reasons, but they no longer apply, as you said yourself. So yes, really.
 
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