Uk General Election 2005

Which political party would/will you vote for?

  • Labour (Tony Blair)

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  • Conservative (Michael Howard)

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  • Liberal Democrat (Charles Kennedy)

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  • UKIP (Roger Knapman)

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  • Veritas (Robert Kilroy-Silk)

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  • Plaid Cymru (Dafydd Iwan)

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  • Green (Keith Taylor)

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  • British National (Nick Griffin)

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  • Third Way

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  • Liberals

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  • Legalise Cannabis Alliance

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  • Pensioners

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  • Any of the myriad of Socialist/Communist Parties

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  • Official Monster Raving Loony (Alan 'Howling Laud' Hope)

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What with the general election coming up, theres bound to be a huge political discussion topic turning up sooner or later, so I thought I'd start the ball rolling with a huge poll :) .

Also, is it just me, or does the UKIP logo remind you of Poundstretchers?
 
non. i dont have the inclination to read through the lies in the manifestos, therefore i will rely on the rest of the population who have read them and sorted out the fact from the fiction to vote for me.

anyone who votes who doesnt read them all is a muppet who shouldnt have a vote and slapped in the head with a wet fish
 
moz posted on Apr 11 2005 at 09:00 AM said:
non. i dont have the inclination to read through the lies in the manifestos, therefore i will rely on the rest of the population who have read them and sorted out the fact from the fiction to vote for me.

anyone who votes who doesnt read them all is a muppet who shouldnt have a vote and slapped in the head with a wet fish
Everybody, vote tactically to defeat the tories.
 
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moz posted on Apr 11 2005 at 09:00 AM said:
non. i dont have the inclination to read through the lies in the manifestos, therefore i will rely on the rest of the population who have read them and sorted out the fact from the fiction to vote for me.

anyone who votes who doesnt read them all is a muppet who shouldnt have a vote and slapped in the head with a wet fish

anyone who has a vote and doesn't use it is a muppet.

i will be voting conservative.
 
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spray posted on Apr 11 2005 at 10:37 AM said:
moz posted on Apr 11 2005 at 09:00 AM said:
non. i dont have the inclination to read through the lies in the manifestos, therefore i will rely on the rest of the population who have read them and sorted out the fact from the fiction to vote for me.

anyone who votes who doesnt read them all is a muppet who shouldnt have a vote and slapped in the head with a wet fish

anyone who has a vote and doesn't use it is a muppet.

i will be voting conservative.
would you like to share the reasons of why you wont be voting for the others?
 
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I haven't decided yet whether I will be voting conservative (with a heavy heart) or spoiling the ballot paper. If it looked like the Liberal Democrats stood a chance of winning I'd vote for their strongest opposition however.
 
Where's the 'I won't be voting button'?

I've Never voted and never will, I really couldn't give a fuck to be honest, there's no such thing as a selfless good deed, and I doubt there's any exception when it comes to politics, each party just has different ways of channelling tax payers money into there own pocket and concealing it somehow.
 
As terrible as the current Labour government is, Turning to the tories is not the answer. A vote for the Tories is a vote to go back to the days of Boom and Bust economy, as opposed to the Labour economy, which is one of the most stable in the world. A vote for the tories would mean a vote for cuts from public services, less tax for the rich, and censorship of the press.

Besides, can you really imagine Michael Howard as PM? I'd flee the country!
 
i'm not approaching the election from an economic stand point, but a personal and social one.

everyone single one of the main parts of the tory manifesto are issues that i strongly believe in.

i will not be voting lib dem as you may as well not bother, our voting system just does not allow them to gain the power they could.

i resent the fact that a statement of previous New Labour manifestos was a guaruntee against increased fees at unis, now look where we are. the notion of getting 50% of people through higher education is a ridiculous one.

Where's the 'I won't be voting button'?
I've Never voted and never will, I really couldn't give a fuck to be honest, there's no such thing as a selfless good deed, and I doubt there's any exception when it comes to politics, each party just has different ways of channelling tax payers money into there own pocket and concealing it somehow.

Right, thats a nice bit of sensationalist logic there. Be that as it may, you still need to decide under what circumstances these people will be getting your concealed money.
 
But if you don't look at the economics of the issues, you can't properly assess them. The tories have made a policy that is obviously a half-baked truth; that they will improve services AND cut taxes; it's not viable. The only way they could do it (which is confirmed by the mutterings of that minister they fired recently), is if they were to take some serious cuts out of public services and welfare.

And think about it, did they say cleaner NHS hospitals? No, because they want everyone to go private. Did they say better schools? No they said better school Discipline, as in, to take freedoms away from kids. And the whole limiting the number of migrants thing is unethical, and extremely impractical, seeing as its not the migrants who come through legal channels which are the problem.

EDIT: And who just voted Loony? :p I wanna know!
 
I'm hoping for a hung parliament so will be voting for whoever brings me closer to that goal. I've not figured out who that is yet but I suspect that where I am currently living it may well be the BNP... not entirely happy with voting for a bunch of fascist nutcases but if that's what it takes...

J(ohn)
 
markusdragon posted on Apr 11 2005 at 11:16 AM said:
Labour economy, which is one of the most stable in the world. A vote for the tories would mean a vote for cuts from public services, less tax for the rich, and censorship of the press.

labour is based upon stealth tax and stealing £5bn per year from the pensions fund.
they took us into a costly war.

house prices are rediculously priced.

Fuel is higher than when the country went on strike over the cost of fuel (labour gov)

rover just collapsed 6000 jobs gone.

jobs are outsourced to unstable economies

cant get a dentist.

ah yes the labour economy we know it well.

thats made my mind up I AM GOING TO VOTE, any body else than labour
 
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spray posted on Apr 11 2005 at 11:36 AM said:
i'm not approaching the election from an economic stand point, but a personal and social one.

everyone single one of the main parts of the tory manifesto are issues that i strongly believe in.

i will not be voting lib dem as you may as well not bother, our voting system just does not allow them to gain the power they could.

i resent the fact that a statement of previous New Labour manifestos was a guaruntee against increased fees at unis, now look where we are. the notion of getting 50% of people through higher education is a ridiculous one.


no it isnt.

You are no better than people who didnt go to Uni. Many people would like to go to Uni but havent because they didnt get a privileged education.

Under Labour, if you cannot afford to pay the fees then you dont have to. It's means tested. Student loans are only paid back when you are earning enough to be able to do so. Interest is not very high and the repayments are relatively small compared to the increase in wages you'll probably receive for having gone to University.

Its not perfect. The other alternatives are to raise taxes alot to pay for Higher education, or the Tories wish which is to say only a certain percentage of people can go to Uni which will mean it will be the same old privately educated middle class families going again and again.

Universities are funded better now than they ever were under the Tories, with more people than ever going and getting to experience the lifestyle which I think every young adult should have the opportunity (and should be encouraged) to do.

The only two sensible policies are to either raise income tax considerably or to charge graduates for their degrees (which give them higher wages anyway). Either way, the answer is not the Conservatives.
 
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i'm not making a case against certain people going to uni, i'm making a case against so many going.

the graduate arena is now over populated with too many people with too many degrees.
why does every city feel the need to have a university, whats wrong with some people going to a local college to continue education?

if we were to go back to a system of 10% going to university then there wouldn't be such a lack of money. this country is slowly being crippled by its lack of skilled work force, we need less people going to get degrees and more people of practical, skills based training schemes.
 
markusdragon posted on Apr 11 2005 at 10:08 AM said:
That's great, but what if I'm in a safe Labour seat and I want to vote for what I actually believe, risk-free?
Then you are pretty much screwed. The electoral system is shit, but you should make the best of a bad situation.
 
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