The Big Hack: Some Bloomberg article with a click-bait headline

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  1. Klumpen

    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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  2. Linux-SWAT

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    And Intel doesn't ship microchips with backdoors since decades ?
     
  3. SONY

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    Of course this was bound to happen sometime. When it comes down to it you can't trust many companies or any at all in regards to how they can sell are personal data which is easier to mine than bitcoin. I'm glad more and more people are learning about security in the tech world. Which is why we hear so much stuff about flaws being found and fixed or spy chips like the one mentioned here. This is where open source hardware and software is a must in my opinion.

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    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    It's interesting to note that all the companies involved have denied important parts of that bloomberg story. To some extent I can see why they're denying that they could be compromised like this, but some of the things they're denying seem to go beyond that desire.
     
  7. comradekingu

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    Free chips!
     
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  8. xnopasaranx

    xnopasaranx Superbad!

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    sooooo... a few weeks later, the article by bloomberg seems more and more like bullshit. why would they go public with this story?

    And could a mod please change the title of this thread? After all, none of this ever really happened...
     
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  9. TeDaDeS

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    I don't know if this specific hack happened, but here are my thoughts.

    Bloombergs reaction:

    "The companies’ denials are countered by six current and former senior national security officials, who—in conversations that began during the Obama administration and continued under the Trump administration—detailed the discovery of the chips and the government’s investigation. One of those officials and two people inside AWS provided extensive information on how the attack played out at Elemental and Amazon; the official and one of the insiders also described Amazon’s cooperation with the government investigation. In addition to the three Apple insiders, four of the six U.S. officials confirmed that Apple was a victim. In all, 17 people confirmed the manipulation of Supermicro’s hardware and other elements of the attacks. The sources were granted anonymity because of the sensitive, and in some cases classified, nature of the information."
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...filtrate-america-s-top-companies?srnd=premium

    Questions:
    Do computers as small as a grain of rice exist (yes):
    https://www.techrepublic.com/articl...r-ibm-chip-is-no-bigger-than-a-grain-of-salt/
    Do computers smaller then a grain of rice exist (yes):
    computer-smaller-than-rice-grain.jpg
    https://news.umich.edu/u-m-researchers-create-worlds-smallest-computer/
    Do government agencies use implants to spy (yes):
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...de-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
    https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk...as-huawei-based-partly-on-nsas-own-spy-tricks

    Speculation:
    Would Apple publicly deny having any backdoor in an Apple product (Yes):
    https://www.cultofmac.com/309740/apple-relents-chinas-demand-network-safety-checks/
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aOxS3einS48J:https://www.popsci.com/apple-denies-fbi-backdoor-into-iphone-owners-devices
    Would Apple products have a backdoor (Possibly):
    https://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/21/covert-backdoors-ios/
    Is Apple selling products in countries that might require a 'not-a-backdoor but it does the same thing'; so those Apple products comply with that law (Probably):
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/14/oz_encryption_backdoor/
     
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  10. TrashyMG

    TrashyMG Sarcasm Dispenser Staff Member

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    Changed the title per request, this time with extra sarcasm.
    Edit 2: updated title again... Still sarcastic, just less snark.
     
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