Germanwings flight 9525
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Everytime you flight, everytime you take the bus, everytime you take the train, you hope the person with the steering wheel has a sane mind...
rygD
Nihilistic Mystic
Or when anywhere, public or private, you hope that no one else is doing anything too stupid; or when eating or drinking anything you hope that anyone involved in preparing it for consumption was doing their job, and that nothing unexpected was introduced and went unnoticed; or when breathing you hope that no lethal substances are in the air; or while just living you hope that all systems within your body, and all of the cells and DNA, aren't going a little screwy; or that those extremely unlikely things, such as meteorites or lightning striking you, or getting caught in a volcanic erruption, don't happen. You might as well just live and not worry too much about everything that can kill you.
You will die.
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Hmm... I question this logic.
Null
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I don't, what I hope is that the bus is actually going to turn up on time for once, and that the fare hasn't massively increased.
rygD
Nihilistic Mystic
I don't. Many people, if not most in first world countries, quickly become uncomfortable (or treat you like a freak) if you acknowledge that dead things are being eaten every time you have a meal that isn't still squirming around while being consumed. Healthy trees are another major victim of the homicidal, self-centered nature of humanity, with large quantities being turned into paper, furniture, structures, fire, etc. When you are using electricity do you ever think about how much destruction of life was needed to allow you that electricity, or the building that you are in, or the roads that lead to it? There are the powerlines and power plants, and potentially whatever fuel source was used for power generation, and if using solar/wind/whatever the things used to turn that into usable electricity didn't just appear, and there was likely a lot of collateral damage done to get at the materials needed for their construction. Same for your electronics, probably your clothing, etc. There were countless generations of entities that were killed, both to sustain the lives that led to you, and also for no reason at all.
It ripples out, as well. You are indirectly supporting every loss of life on the planet, either through what you do/use/consume, or through inaction. You want to have a memorial for those in a plane when it crashed. I want to have a memorial for everything but the humans. For whatever reason, your average human tries to dominate the rest of the life on the planet, even if they claim to be opposed to such practices. You don't have to be directly involved to be responsible. I haven't even scratched the surface. Most are just content to be on the receiving end of the human run death factory, and they will attempt to transfer the blame elsewhere when they acknowledge it, or, as is usually the case, ignore it completely. "It's just how things are" or "there is no other option". It is possible to not be a part of it, however it is difficult (even transporting your animal and plant friendly things to you usually involves the death of many things along the way). I don't care that it won't change, but it would be nice if people thought about how much of a negative impact everything in their lives has on everyone else we share the planet with.
Maybe the driver was hoping you would leave before they got there if they were late enough. On that note, I am more concerned about other passengers than I am about the operators of planes, trains and buses. The average driver of a car any time you are near a road, though? Yeah, you might hope they aren't an "average driver", or at least not the sort around here.
rygD
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@rygD's post #8: So you're saying 150 human lives are just 150 plant lives? Weird thinking/logic.
Pickle
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Just think of all the life you just killed to post this wall of text! Oh the humanity....
Oh no I just quoted it.....more life down the drain....
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iprice
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It's looking like the co-pilot did this on purpose. Ffffffuuuuuuu....
rygD
Nihilistic Mystic
No. I am saying I value 150 plant lives more than 150 modern human lives that are used as justification for causing massive amounts of undue harm to the lives of other things that live on this planet. It is actually more weird to think that it is acceptable to destroy everything in your environment for short term gain than it is to think that some of those things that you destroy, and would have possibly outlived you, might be more beneficial in the long term than what came from their destruction.
Pickle, I do think about such things. (Edit: In these particular instances there is likely not any increase or reduction of loss of life based on 2 posts, excluding, ya know, the butterfly effect. Now manufacturing and buying Pandoras and Pyras, or any other device or media used to make those posts... :lol: ) I am frequently directly responsible for many deaths. I also don't feel guilty about it because I try to limit my actions so that my long term personal impact will be the least harmful I can make it, and to reverse damage caused by myself and others.
Interesting. Do you mind pointing me at what might lead someone to that conclusion?
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iprice
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Gruntfuggly
Mostly Harmless
I don't buy that the co-pilot deliberately tried to crash the plane. If he wanted to destroy it, why would it take him 8 minutes? It wasn't even a particularly high rate of descent.
I also don't believe that this information would have been released by the investigators so early...
I also don't believe that this information would have been released by the investigators so early...