This forum has a few problems. There is a lot of hostility, and bad feeling. We shout 'troll' too quickly, but to be honest we don't even need a troll, someone just has to make an ambiguous technical statement, and suddenly there is a blood bath with fur flying and everyone jumping in. So.. I thought, what we need is counseling, we should create a thread where people could come to recover, and speak about their pain. Everyone can help, but no-one is allowed to be sarcastic, to argue, criticize or to blame. To give you an idea of what i mean here is a purely fictional scenario show how it should work:- WizardStan : Exophase was mean to me! JayFoxRox : And how did that make you feel? WizardStan : bad... but .. JayFoxRox : Yes? WizardStan : I was also *ahem* slightly aroused JayFoxRox : You have nothing to be ashamed of. Have you expressed how you feel to Exophase? WizardStan : I tried. JayFoxRox : and what did he say? WizardStan : I'm not sure, it was in hexadecimal. ..... so? what do you think? Do you have a problem you would like to share? did someone call you a troll? make fun of your toolchain? lets have at least one thread where people are nice and just share their feelings.