EU wants to require platforms to filter uploaded content (including code)

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  1. Klumpen

    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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    Source: https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/
     
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    rygD Nihilistic Mystic

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    Anyone else remember when the internet was the ultimate place for freedom? I miss those days.
     
  3. Caine

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    Me too. We are quickly moving towards a 100% surveillance and reputation based society. Any voice of dissent is not heard, ignored or even silenced.
     
  4. JDTAY

    JDTAY Half Pepperoni, All Cheese

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    On the plus side though, the entertainment industry is jolly well profitable.

    I don't know what I'd do if all those millionaires couldn't get new yachts for the summer. Sailing around on last year's yacht is quite unpleasant. >_>
     
  5. Klumpen

    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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    That escalated quickly.
     
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    JDTAY Half Pepperoni, All Cheese

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    Whoa, what happened to CabinetOfJoy's post? I don't remember anything offensive in it.
     
  7. Elw3

    Elw3 ƐʍlƎ

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    The time where this was for freedom was when there where no average ppl on the internet.
    Just saying, by letting everyone in they spoil everyones fun.
    Ever been to the gopher network? There is a large book collection for download and no one gives a fuck cause barely anyone knows how to get there.
    Same for normal http browsers: project Gutenberg, banned in germany.
     
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  8. rygD

    rygD Nihilistic Mystic

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    That's what happens when we make computers easy. We need to kill off GUIs.
     
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    That is not entirely true. There is a difference between US copyright and German copyright. Some works (three or four of them if I recall correctly) are not in the public domain yet in Germany but they are in the US.

    A German court has ordered that those works need to be removed (lawfully so, if you cater to a market then you need to follow their rules). Project Gutenberg is (in my opinion wrongfully) of the conviction that they do not need to adhere to German law as they are a US hosted company. Their way of respecting the German court order (and making a political statement on the side) was by banning all of Germany from the entire site.
     
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    You keep saying that whatever i say is not entirely true and then state the very same thing is true.
    You need a therapy dude.
     
  11. Letalis Sonus

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    Gutenberg banned Germany, not the other way round. They only had to take care of a few items but decided that they rather block off the whole site than just those few files. Banning the whole website has never been part of the court order.
     
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    No I don't. You just don't seem to read very thoroughly. As Letalis Sonus said, Gutenberg banned Germany out of protest, not the other way around.
    A therapy? I am already having therapy. Perhaps I should take another :p Oh, and I am not into that whole brevity thing. It is el Duderino for you.
     
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    So my sentence should have have been: Germany is banned in Gutenberg.
    This sounds so much better, thanks.
     
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    rygD Nihilistic Mystic

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    Not banned, but...
     
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    i find that satisfyingly ironic, that Project Gutenberg geht nicht in Deutschland
     
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    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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    Regarding the Gutenberg case:
    The lawyer in that lawsuit sounded familiar: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_Frommer
    They were also involved with some of the wi-fi lawsuits which complicated the matters for free wi-fi in Germany.
    No wonder they have such notable clients.
    We're very deep in ultra conservative corporate shitlord territory here.

    S. Fischer is owned by Holtzbrinck, one of the biggest publishers in the world and afaik second biggest in Germany after Bertelsmann
    Also after reading the text I linked and judging by the history of that law firm it's reasonable to assume that their main interest was this:
    So their goal is to get money for every download that happened.

    From their standpoint Gutenberg is a piracy site because it distributes copyrighted material. Don't forget that the big media houses fought for the extension of the copyright protection time (the 70+ years after death in Germany didn't come out of nowhere).
     
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    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    this is horrible. The copyright should be adpated to the needs of the web not way around!

    The law makers have no clue what they are doing & destroying... I miss the pirate Party :(
     
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    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    Blimey, there's a lot more than some stuffy old theses; using that link I've found most of dickens, much J. Conrad and Huxley's Brave New World in pdf format. Good stuff!
     
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