Craigix Discloses Information On New Gp2x?

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  1. saehn

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    CraigIX, only you can fulfill the prophecy of old! Girl gelflings can fly!

    Please? :D

    Seriously, though... give us some teasers. Partial hardware redesign? Mere firmware update?! Dpad?!?!?!

    EDIT (08/08/07) - I've moved my X3X Info List here, so that new readers can find it easier. I will update as new information becomes available.

    EDIT (08/11/07) - Most recent update.

    Reliable sources: CraigIX, EvilDragon, mfk, Squidge
    If I don't have a public source for it, it doesn't go here.

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    Name: GPQ3?, GP3X? ... real name unknown.
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    Manufacturer: Non-GamePark, GamePark Holdings
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: Don't panic, the designers who fucked up the GP2X are no longer with us.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=150#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: It's not related with GP or GPH.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=210#

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    Physical Size: Approximately same size as GP2X / or slightly smaller
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: This is something you can carry in your pocket.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=615#

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    Screen Resolution: probably 800x480
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    Source: EvilDragon
    Quote: Oh, 800x480 isn't that bad for emulation.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...;p=547334&#

    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: If some of you have gone back though my posts over the last few weeks or months even I have dropped a few hints about walls we may have hit with certain areas. One of them is a 640*480 screen. It is not possible to use such a screen due to Sony having some kind of agreement with sharp.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...;p=547677&#

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    Screen: Touchscreen, 4.3" (10.92cm) diagonal, dual video output (not screens) with separate signals
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: Community wants Wi-Fi so it'll be definitely included. Same for touchscreen...
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=270#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: It has keyboard and touchscreen. I think it was clear enough from our earlier posts.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=615#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: It has a 4.3" widescreen display and a keyboard.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=855#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: It can display different things on TV and LCD at the same time. Also you can use PIP function.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...p;st=1410&#

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    Text Input: Keyboard
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: It has keyboard and touchscreen. I think it was clear enough from our earlier posts.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=615#

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    Connectivity: Wi-Fi
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: Community wants Wi-Fi so it'll be definitely included. Same for touchscreen...
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=270#

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    Software Installation: one-click installer available
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: There will indeed be a one click install system (if you want to use it).
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=300#

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    Price: Not too much more than GP2X
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: We are trying to keep the price low, not too much more than the GP2X but offering a hell of a lot more for your money.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=300#

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    System Memory: 128 megabytes RAM
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: The RAM will be 128MB. I think this is the maximum we can use without complications.
    http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=450#

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    Copyright Status: Open source
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: It's definitely open source.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=195#

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    Joystick: Something like a D-pad
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: D-Pad is a patented design. But it will be a similar design.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=195#

    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: We can't use an exact dpad but we can get pretty close to one, it will be digital and should work very well (better than the PSP one for example).
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=300#

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    OS: Linux
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: Yes we have some software from the GP2X running and yes the system will still run Linux.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=300#

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    Processor: Maybe MMSP2+
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: The funny thing about the MMSP2+ is that it is a totally new bit of kit, it isn't really related to the MMSP2 at all. You could not just put it inside the gp2x and it would work, everything would have to be redesigned from the ground up.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...8044&st=30#

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    Graphics: 2D & 3D acceleration
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: Yep... 2D and 3D hardware acceleration.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=165#

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    Volume Control: Hardwired wheel
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: "Also, please make a hardwired volume wheel, don't rely on everyone implementing software volume control in their devices!" ... "Yes. It's there already."
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...8044&st=90#

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    Power: Li-ion pack
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: For power, yes, any new system would have to be li-ion based, AAs just can't give the needed power anymore.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...8044&st=45#

    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: We will use an off the shelf battery which will be cheap and not some custom only for profit thing.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...8044&st=75#

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    Storage: SD, SDHC
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: We don't have a plan to change the storage to miniSD or microSD. We simply don't need it. It would be nonsense to have the same capacity and speed with higher price. However if you already have a miniSD or microSD you can use it with SD card adaptor. cool.gif
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=390#

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    Architecture: Dual-core CPU
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    Source: mfk
    Quote: Why is people asking for single core CPU? There are many advantages of using dual core.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...mp;st=405&#

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    Speed: Less than 2Ghz
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    Source: EvilDragon
    Quote: It won't be a wondermachine with 2GHz and a 30hours lasting batteries.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=375#

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    TV-out: Included in hardware
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    Source: EvilDragon
    Quote: TV Out is nice, but why do you need an extra adapter for it?
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=375#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: Built-in A/V-Out? Yes for sure... with a simple yet usable cable included inside the package.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=870#

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    Performance: Unoptimized SNES emu runs faster than GP2X's optimized SNES emus
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    Source: EvilDragon
    Quote: Well... faster SNES emulation than the most optimized gp2x-Version without optimizing it or using any of the hardware acceleration features isn't impressive?
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=360#

    Source: Squidge
    Quote: Once Linux is ported properly (ie, uses the hardware properly instead of "just enough to get Linux going"), and the emulator is written for the hardware rather than hacked together, I'd easily expect it to run two copies of the emulator at once with no slow down.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=375#

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    Battery Life: Less than 10 hours, more than 3
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: Err apart from the fact one is a handheld (10 hours bat) and the other is a laptop (2-3 hours bat)?
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=165#

    Source: mfk
    Quote: Frankly speaking; 10 hours of battery life is a dream at the moment. I think we should kill this rumor too.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...;p=547635&#

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    Release Date: Sometime after December 2007
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    Source: CraigIX
    Quote: December isn't a deadline, it is just a nice goal we have, as I've said we won't release until it is ready and working exactly as we want it.
    Link: http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...044&st=300#
     
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  2. TelcoLou

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    You suck.

    You lied, and you suck.

    :angry:
     
  3. craigix

    craigix Mega GP Mania

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    It isn't an 'update' at all.
     
  4. Goity

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    It's entirely new?
     
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    Score!
    EDIT: What the hell? I posted this in reply to Squidge's post.
     
  6. Squidge

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    Yes, an entirely new... dpad!

    (Well, thing you stick on top of your current stick anyway!)

    or maybe not, what do I know :p

    :D
     
  7. DisgruntleElf

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    Isn't Duke Nukem Forever an exclusive release with this new GP2X unit? :lol:
     
  8. Alex.

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    So will the next thing be a Mark 3 or a GP3X?

    It would be sad to see the GP2X fade after only 2 years.
     
  9. Vimacs

    Vimacs Don't be evil!

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    maybe its a pocket warmer with a dpad? now that would be cool!
     
  10. DaveC

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    Even if there was a such thing we could still use the current GP2X.

    The GP2X is a good all around form factor and is very versitile. The screen aspect matches emus nice, the button layout is pretty comfortable, it can easily be rotated to portrait mode to match the 100s of arcade games and still be comfortable. It uses easily obtainable batteries that you can always get cheaply etc. Since many companies like GPH give in to fads and peer pressure they may stick us with some emu unfriendly widescreen thing with hard to get custom batteries for all we know. There always seems to be a "gotcha" with these things. There never seems to be a single handheld that gets all of the parameters right. They always seem to have some nice features but then blow it somewhere. The Gp2X is not perfect but is one of the closest in many ways. The Gp2X could be the last of its kind.
     
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    What we know so far:


    D-pad
    3d Capabilities, eats PSPs for breakfast.
    Backwards compatible with Gp2x.
    Craigx is getting a big kick out of all this, and could be really pulling our leg. ;)

    Anything I'm missing??
     
  12. TyBO!

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    Hmm... this kinda worries me. I'd rather do away with the stick entirely with it's dead-zone and all. I hope Gamepark Holdings is listening when I say: nothing is more precise than a true D-pad!
     
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  13. Alex.

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    But this would mean the entire current-GP2X community will be left in the dust after just 2 years of existence, just when things are starting to mature. Backwards compatibility or not, everyone who has the opportunity would use the new more powerful hardware, and disregard the GP2X's lower specs :-/

    Let it just be a MK3 with better controls/screen/etc., and keep the performance improvements for the GP3X in late 2008!
     
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    Do we know if it comes from GPH for sure?
     
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    I agree with Alex, I will be disappointed if the GP2X is replaced so soon. Two years is way too short of a life cycle. A GP2X SP type dealie would be pretty nice, though.
     
  16. JyCet

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    dont worry, if you look craddle release delay ... we cant see anything from them before 2008 (middle :D )

    otherwise build a mk3 or build a new compatible handheld ... it's the same thing. It just some options to add in your program to enable or not the new functionality. Or dev only for gp2x and it will work on the new unit.

    The biggest error they can do, it's build new uncompatible handheld (I know they can do that :D )

    MMSP2+ ;)
     
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  17. kevcal

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    All these rumours could affect current/future gp2x sales.. :(
    Not a wise move?
     
  18. techFreak

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    I agree. This is an unnecessary topic. :angry2:
     
  19. DaveC

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    Yeah sounds like a bad idea to me too. It would be best to clam up until about a month or so before anything is released.

    Still the way things are if anything did come I would not expect it for about a year by my guess. It was pretty long with the Gp2X between the time we saw the working prototype board running GBC and a unit you could buy. We have not seen anything in the way of anything like new hardware here, just alot of blabbering. I have not heard of any D-pads being made either, which is dumb. They should at least do that if they do anything. I gave Craig my D-pad mod and begged him to make GPH steal the design from me. GPH did nothing :rolleyes:
     
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    hhahahah gampark holdings does not have any money for this right now ahahhahahahaha.
    FAKE and yes it will hurt the gp2x sales.(kinda of hurting craig i guess 2
    wat is he thinking?)
    unless iam completey wrong
    which i willing to bet iam right.
     
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