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It's good to see the "don't bother" rhetoric is still flowing here, even in the face of being completely wrong.  Outside the UK I the chances of a refund are probably very low. Within the UK, through the small claims court they are significantly better. And there's no reason, no matter where...

Yes, and that's all the point I was trying to make. There is no risk in trying.The people suggesting otherwise are talking out their asses and only doing Craig a favor.

That is exactly what will happen if Craig is forced to liquidate the company rather than having it struck off.

The problem is it's not reality, it's just guesses based on nothing. Sure, it may be the case but why continue to post discouraging crap when ultimately people have nothing to lose by trying? Reality: By filing an objection and/or claim you may get nothing. Reality: By not filing an object/and...

1) You don't know whether the money came from Google or Craig. 2) They have a better chance of a refund from Google than Craig anyway because Craig doesn't give a fuck. 3) You've made your position on this clear more than enough times so please take your defeatist attitude elsewhere. There are...

I would expect, even if Google did pay, they'd try to recover the money from Craig. I don't know Google terms and conditions for merchants but I imagine they this kind of scenario well covered.  Either way, it's good news for Stuart and could be for others too. 

Exactly. If it wasn't Craig apologists and supporters it was the doomsayers claiming any legal action would result in liquidation, massive legal bills and no refunds. All three of those things have proven to be false and Craig has proven to be exactly the kind of lying weasel many were bashed...

You should file a claim like Stuart has: http://boards.openpandora.org/topic/14913-openpandora-ltd-uk-struck-off-email/page-7#entry291108 He got a refund, you may well get one too.  At the very least it will stop Craig getting away with this with no consequences.

That's a damn good idea. Everyone, UK resident or not should file an objection. You may not get your money back but it's free and Craig will have to answer each and every claim. It's starting to snowball...

That's pretty much Craig's MO - taking money from one project/preorder to cover the screwups of the other. If there is any ICP2 money left I'm certain that's where it'll be going. But do you honestly think Craig will return the ICP2 funds? I don't, so it probably doesn't make a difference.

And this is why I was calling your advice/misinformation shitty: http://boards.openpandora.org/topic/14913-openpandora-ltd-uk-struck-off-email/?p=293168 People who ignored your misleading bullshit and actually did something are getting refunds. Not theoretical, some time in the future refunds...

Possibly. It's the unfortunate nature of things like this. The backers would go after Product 3 LLC and in turn Product 3 LLC would go after Craig.

Email is fine, I misunderstood your post and thought you weren't going to send an objection at all. Nice work :)

As vcoleiro stated, you don't actually need a working prototype. And the wording around creator responsibility is carefully written so Kickstarter have no responsibility at all. They're a business, if it doesn't affect their bottom line, they don't care. And at the moment the impact is probably...

You should file your objection too. The more people who do, the better. It'll make it clear to the Companies Office that it's not just one or two disgruntled customers but a number of people with a legitimate claim.

Nice work! Great to see more people are willing to take the time to do something.

Very good point I failed to make, thanks :)

You've completely failed to read and/or understand what I or several others have posted. Stop posting shitty advice (or "misleading information", if that makes you feel better) and I'll stop correcting it.  To anyone who prefers not to sit around and do nothing when they get shafted, even when...

It's similar in New Zealand and the UK. Which is why people should be filing objections to OP UK Ltd being struck off, before it's too late. You don't need to hire forensic accountants, expert witnesses or solicitors. I really don't think you understand the small claims court, legal process or...

@hedwards Like a number of forum members here you're discouraging people from pursing legal action against Craig because you claim it's risky, when it fact it's not. That is shitty advice. I'm aware the company is limited liability but as long as the company is kept on the register then...