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someone needs to update the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29 "As of September 3, 2012, 4600 units have been shipped and 400 early supporters are still waiting to receive a console,[11] as these pre-orders are only fulfilled when sales to new customers are made."

::EDIT:: didn't realize who I was responding to. apologies. mary was not in the 1ghz que, she was in the original pre order que.

what is partial about it? it should have its own thread and should be pinned.

no she said: "Basically I want to know how many people are ahead of me. If I'm close, then I will wait. If hundreds are ahead of me, then I will make a refund demand and move on" and jacquelyn canceled the order without Mary ever making the demand. I.E. your WRONG

craig said "we" raised 1.5 million dollars to launch the pandora. thats what he said in that interview and thats what we all signed up for, thats what the world sees and thats how it was advertised to us. no word about multiple companies or customers losing money on a risk investment for a...

wow so you asked for an update and they cancelled your order?  is this how business is handled in the UK? no wonder they wont go after CC if this is the type of business practices they are used to and accept.  no update at all to pre orders, his shop is closed, what happened to selling units to...

thank you wizardstan, that clears up alot, and thank you ED for trying to cover for craigs preorders. I was under the impression that ED and Craig both owned OpenPandora and independently distributed pandoras through their own shops. i realize some of my comments seem ignorant and angry, but i...

so the two OP companies are seperate from the stores?

i was under the impression that there was money unaccounted for. mostly due to reading speculation due to the lack of transparency while sifting through piles of threads trying to catch up.

for some reason i thought you (ED) was partial owner of OP ltd. so if craig cant pull all this together OP is shot then?

i guess your right. omission of information is not admission of guilt. he must have a good reason to keep information from other people

so craig is the sole owner of OP ltd? and please read this link http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/fraud_protection/asset_misappropriation

::EDIT:: i dont even see a link to order from his site. is he not even selling them?? i mean there is no link to order from his shop at openpandora.org

im talking about the money from the 70 pandoras that was supposed to help pay for my preorder. ::EDIT:: i dont even see a link to order from his site. is he not even selling them??

its not about ruining the guys life, at this rate he will do it on his own. and why would i want OP to file bankruptcy when craig is the one that is running it into the ground? its about getting our money back or the item we paid for. face it, the guy is cannibalizing OP. if he is taking money...

**This last exception is the most important. If owners don't treat the LLC as a separate business, a court might decide that the LLC doesn't really exist and find that its owners are really doing business as individuals who are personally liable for their acts. i went to OpenPandora.org to buy...

unless *he * intentionally does something fraudulent, illegal, or reckless that causes harm to the company or to someone else, or * treats the LLC as an extension of his or her personal affairs, rather than as a separate legal entity... so what happened to the 70 or so pandoras that...

out all his assets

oh. hey look. we can petition to FORCE craig into bankruptcy https://www.gov.uk/creditor-bankruptcy-petitions

ha so i complain about getting ripped off (that IS what is happening) and left in the dust and people call me a dick. its called free enterprise. I made a gamble and SO did craig, SO did everyone else involved with craig AND OP. when you file bankruptcy you liquidate assets and pay off depts...