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Hmm that might not be so bad then. You would have to limit customer issues on your side before taking a deposit i.e. only charging once the physical pandora is made, so as to avoid any issues with perceived miss selling or lack of delivery but otherwise it could be promising. I think people...

I think it would be important to ensure that when testing a new version they only had to pay once through the beta version process i.e. pay for beta 1, have betas 2 through 6 and the final version at no additional cost. There might be some reduction but it would be interesting to see how reduced...

Though I appreciate the idea I think the situation would lead to more problems than solutions. It would be difficult to challenge any abuse of the system i.e. if a customer decided to move or simply cancel payments. They could effectively take the pandora and run. If you could cut off services...

I guess my interpretation of take advantage was meant slightly differently. The impression I get is that you figure I mean is as if the opposite is "not screw over" but I was aiming for the opposite to be closer to "not utilise". The user base of the pandora will always be its strength and there...

how easy is it to replace the back side? also are the silver ones compatible with the black original cases? the battery cover on mine doesnt fit well with the back side and causes the battery cover tabs to break really easily

Well no one is remotely suggesting a closed system. I just think making the pandora less attractive to new users is infinitely more damaging than asking the existing users to pay small amounts for updates. More users will attract more devs, not a device with no potential audience growth. Also, I...

I guess that kinda goes some way to prove the entire problem with the tech industry these days. Its only "good and honest" if its free, otherwise its big and bad and corporate and part of the system. No wonder there are so many unemployed coders out there.

I've got to say I am a little surprised... I understand it adds up to a degree but we have had what... 6 hotfixes, super zaxxon so around 7 updates when that is out of beta, at £5 a pop is still only £35 over 2-4 years. On top of that they are essentially optional updates. I guess I just see the...

See there is nothing about either if your last posts that sounds at all unreasonable and it then starts to make a lot more sense. Its more about you being able to clear previous debts than realistically ever making much of a profit. It becomes relatively easy to assume that the premiums and...

I have no opinion either way on whether the Pandora was originally meant to draw a profit, but back when it was £200 (including tax!)/$330, what was the profit margin on that? If there was intended profit to be made on that then it must mean that the cost of manufacture has effective tripled...

Well, I am not aiming to fight for sure. You should know I've always backed the project quite aggressively in the past. I guess, more than anything, I am just expressing a degree of fear. If all the stuff above is true then I am anxious of the demand being there for the Pandora. There was...

Yeah i think $690 would really push me out of the market, sadly. I wonder if it would push the Pandora out of viability too. Happy to be wrong, but I can just see people settling for their smartphones. $690 would quite comfortably cover a year on a smartphone with all the network and call...

I think there is some confusion over the ultimate price of these 1GHz pandora units now for the 150 unit test run compared to the price if there ended up being a full scale run. Obviously the test run needs to be higher priced which is fine, but I think people are worried that if these become...

For something that will inevitably become the normal run for a lower price I am more than happy to wait. It would be a better deal to sell on my current Pandora after receiving a new unit. Really though, unless I see across the board reports of this update being an absolute game changer I will...

Wizzley Presto!

cor how did you end up paying so much?! £400 / $630 is an awful lot to pay even with the upgrades. i must admit i did chuckle at the buy it now price of £700 or $1,104 too. thats quite a bit more than the original cost of £200 / $350!

You suggested slashing the price of the older pandoras rather than having an inflated price for the DM3730 pandoras, which is what everyone was against.

This only works if you are a big company who doesn't want to have a load of unsold units returned to them. In the case of OP if they cut prices, then they cant afford to continue. If they just have to minimise damages and needed money asap then fine, I would agree, but for them to continue doing...

I actually really liked both Superman Returns and Judge Dredd. Not really sure why but I found Superman plenty entertaining and I really found Judge Dredd incredibly visually pleasing to watch. I am also a fan of the Star Wars prequels and the Matrix sequels. Ah well, haters gonna hate!

Its somewhat amusing that people have in some cases holding on to their orders since there is no equal competitor and now the biggest competition is from a more powerful device from the same company! Really though, its going to be important not to count out the current pandora. We are all still...