If There Was An Nds Emu...


b_o_b I no longer own a DS, often the control schemes in games were too detrimental to the experience for me to continue enjoying mine.

Drack, I'm a bit surprised to find people who really enjoy that program. I mean, it's fairly good at times but on occasion I found that without inputting the hirigana I couldn't find a Kanji because the program would stubbornly assume you were looking for a different one. I spent more time using Colors! to practice Kanji as I could write the characters a few times, erase, review, and then practice some more and hope to see something as useful and simple for drawing on the Pandora some day.
 
Ok, GBATemp-forum member here:

First off, don't buy an R4. Buy either an AceKard 2i, a Supercard DSTWO or an E-Z Flash Vi. Don't ask why. It should be enough for you to know that it has so many flaws that it produces the GBAtemp equivalent of where's-my-Pandora-bitching posts and threads: "HALP FIX MY R4 IT WON'T PLAY NEW GAMES AND IT'S YOUR FAULT!!!1!!1!ONE"
Secondly (and hypothetically) the DeSmuME team is actually working on implementing WiFi features. So, if DS emulation on the Pandora does eventually become a reality, then multiplayer/wif-communications/DS Adhoc is a possibility.

However I wouldn't hold my breath.
The wifi hardware and protocols utilized by the DS are not fully understood yet. We have a few functional libraries, but these are really sort-of iffy. Plus, the DSi(XL) changed this just enough to break these, leaving DSi owners unable to even boot most homebrew applications which support wifi.
 
Gruso said:
I think we should choose now to put and end to the DS screen meme. Not that I want to ruin anyone's fun, but it does tend to derail threads and alienate new members. That doesn't make for a very welcoming community. :)

For the record, there is no such thing as a moot hypothetical.
i think that as long as there is at least 2 posts in the thread replying directly and informatively that the pandora actually CAN fit both ds screens, its funny, so as long as jesus kills a kitten every time somebody does research to figure out if the pandora can hold both nds screens, its funny to me


oh and yeah dont be a dummy and by r4's. even though all r4's sold today are clones, even if you magically find a real r4, its still a piece of crap, same goes for wiikey for the wii
 
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WiFi on DS is ridiculously complex. Even doing enough code just to make the games think that WiFi is there but with no activity is a lot of work (but necessary to make some games work)

I don't envy the desmume guys. But I rarely do ;D (I also have permission from zeromus to not use their god awful capitalization, he doesn't either ^^)

To make use of the desmume WiFi it'd have to be in a desmume port or in another emulator that's GPL. Any kind of new implementation would still be really hard.
 
Korlithiel said:
b_o_b I no longer own a DS, often the control schemes in games were too detrimental to the experience for me to continue enjoying mine.

Drack, I'm a bit surprised to find people who really enjoy that program. I mean, it's fairly good at times but on occasion I found that without inputting the hirigana I couldn't find a Kanji because the program would stubbornly assume you were looking for a different one. I spent more time using Colors! to practice Kanji as I could write the characters a few times, erase, review, and then practice some more and hope to see something as useful and simple for drawing on the Pandora some day.

Off-topic, but...

The key is knowing how Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten does its handwriting recognition. Most gaijin make the mistake of assuming it just takes a picture of what you wrote and compares it to what the kanji in its database look like. That's not at all what it's doing. What KSRJ really does is look at the individual strokes, their length, directions, the order you wrote them in, and how many of them you wrote, and compares THAT to its database. If you don't get the kakikata (how to write) or the hitsujun (stroke order) right, the software won't recognize the characters well. If you're a little bit off, just touch the character it thought you wrote in the lookup field and it will show close match alternatives. If you know how to properly write characters, nothing beats KSRJ for speed and precision of looking up unknown kanji or words (though multi radical software works well too). Knowing the properties like stroke count/order/direction of a character you don't know is actually not a big deal and usually guessable if you have been building up good writing habits instead of bad ones.

Take, for example, 際, a fifth-grade character. If I didn't know this character and ALSO didn't know that one of the readings is sai, I would guess the kakikata to be the left radical first, then upper middle radical, then upper right, bottom. I already know the hitsujun of the radicals themselves. Bam, first try recognition (and it turns our my guess was right).

Forget about handwriting English this way. We don't have these concepts in our writing system, so KSRJ is horrible at recognizing English; use the touch keyboard if you want to look up English -> Japanese.

Believe me, when I was in Japan last summer, I had loads of dictionaries, the paper kind, iphone apps, etc... and nothing came close to KSRJ. Since a DS emulator on Pandora is unlikely, this is one app I may look into what open source solutions already exist (like KanjiPad) for handwriting recognition and improve one of them to the level where I no longer would want to use my DS for Japanese study.

Learning Kanji is like rolling a snowball. The more you already know, the faster you can learn more. I know about 1430, and that's still considered illiterate (and no, my avatar is not a real kanji).
 
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DaMummy said:
the pandora only has one screen so its theoretically impossible to emulate the nds, on a side note, the 3ds will will use nubs very similar to pandoras, so there is some potential there for emulation
my macb00ks only got da 1 screeny but it plays dem ds gaems?! im doing teh impossibles?!?!?! :eek:
 
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Tokiopop said:
DaMummy said:
the pandora only has one screen so its theoretically impossible to emulate the nds, on a side note, the 3ds will will use nubs very similar to pandoras, so there is some potential there for emulation
my macb00ks only got da 1 screeny but it plays dem ds gaems?! im doing teh impossibles?!?!?! :eek:

Nah, everybody knows laptops are just one screen DS knockoffs. they use so many DS screens as one big one but in true KIRF style forgot to put one under the touch pad for true DS goodness. Which is why Toshiba released the super DS laptop the Libretto W100. And all of these forgot the D-pad and buttons. Which just goes to show you that only Nintendo knows how to play games. :blink:
 
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Can we turn this in to a thread about the number of screens on the DS vs Pandora - as they are my favourite threads, and we haven't had one in weeks. Or maybe the reason we can't emulate DS games is actually that we haven't got DS Wifi emulation worked out yet, it's hard to tell. :)

Steve
 
Poem58 said:
Tokiopop said:
DaMummy said:
the pandora only has one screen so its theoretically impossible to emulate the nds, on a side note, the 3ds will will use nubs very similar to pandoras, so there is some potential there for emulation
my macb00ks only got da 1 screeny but it plays dem ds gaems?! im doing teh impossibles?!?!?! :eek:

Nah, everybody knows laptops are just one screen DS knockoffs. they use so many DS screens as one big one but in true KIRF style forgot to put one under the touch pad for true DS goodness. Which is why Toshiba released the super DS laptop the Libretto W100. And all of these forgot the D-pad and buttons. Which just goes to show you that only Nintendo knows how to play games. :blink:
God damn Nintendo!

But Pandora has buttons :eek:
 
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Rockthesmurf said:
Can we turn this in to a thread about the number of screens on the DS vs Pandora - as they are my favourite threads, and we haven't had one in weeks. Or maybe the reason we can't emulate DS games is actually that we haven't got DS Wifi emulation worked out yet, it's hard to tell. :)

Steve

Do what you will, I've got my answer.


Thanks for the answers and allowing me to pick your brains those who stayed on topic.
 
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It's so great that people still answer the screen problem.
 
Phawx said:
It's so great that people still answer the screen problem.
Yet they continuously ignore the most obvious of all issues, the pandora has no DS Card Slot. How can you play DS games with no DS Slot?


How weird, we have SD slots but no DS slots..... what if we put DS games in upside down via the SD slots?
 
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Mofokubik said:
How weird, we have SD slots but no DS slots..... what if we put DS games in upside down via the SD slots?
Wouldn't an upside down DS be a DZ?
 
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really, im not allowed to drag the screen issue, but youre gonna bring this into the conversation....really? i mean cmon, the pandora doesnt have a gba slot like the nds, but it doesnt have any problems running gba does it!? so this quite obviously isnt out bottleneck
 
DaMummy said:
really, im not allowed to drag the screen issue, but youre gonna bring this into the conversation....really? i mean cmon, the pandora doesnt have a gba slot like the nds, but it doesnt have any problems running gba does it!? so this quite obviously isnt out bottleneck
you guys dont see the fatal flaw with ds emulation is pandora has too many buttons ds has not enough how will ds play pandora games when pandora emulate ds game???
 
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Okay, how about:

Print out a picture of what you expect the bottom screen it s'pose to look like, or draw it... Then, map the keyboard buttons to the respective positions that they are located behind your new picture, so say... if you have a 10x10 picture, and 5x5 buttons under it, each button is worth 2x2. Then, you just press the picture and get an approximation of where it should be. It will work perfectly!

Or not.
 
are you saying we should use the pandora keyboard to ascii a bottom nds screen? GENIUS!
 
Might as well tell a few people here.
The new DSi updates (1.4.1 and 1.4.2) block all flashcarts.
If you have a DSi and have a flashcart, do not update yet.

Note that most R4s will not be able to be updated to get around the new AP.
 
DaMummy said:
are you saying we should use the pandora keyboard to ascii a bottom nds screen? GENIUS!

No, not at all. But you can do that if you want. I won't judge. YOU CAN DO THAT TOO.
 
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fearofshorts said:
Might as well tell a few people here.
The new DSi updates (1.4.1 and 1.4.2) block all flashcarts.
If you have a DSi and have a flashcart, do not update yet.

Note that most R4s will not be able to be updated to get around the new AP.
yea that lasted long, 1st of all, not all flashcarts are blocked, and even some of the ones that were, DSTWO already bypassed the protection and is backin business in the flashcart game on updated dsi
 
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