Gameboy Advance Emulator.


Paradox posted on Dec 13 2005 at 03:14 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 13 2005 at 07:46 PM said:
I, too, am waiting for that fabled GB/C emulator... so many great games, all so tiny in size... I could have the entire library on one SD card.

entire library of GB/C/A games would run up in the near 10gig mark i would suspect, plus where do you get the money for all these games? D;
Oh well you see I'm a very rich man you see yes we all are aren't we yes.

And of course, I only mean the entire library of games that I have and uh...

/runs
 
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iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 07:26 PM said:
pip posted on Dec 11 2005 at 01:17 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 05:11 PM said:
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.
That may be how it works in the US but certainly not how it works in Sweden. Don't take for granted that every country has your ridiculous laws and procedures regarding sueing.
Well I guess you don't mind only playing Sweden-local games right? And, not that I condone it, but America does sometimes act like they own the world, and have been very succesful at trying to prove that point throughout history.

What is different about the laws in the US and those in Sweden about this particular matter?
The origin of the game doesn't matter. What ever I do in Sweden I do under Swedish laws and regulations.

The are some major differences. First is that in order to sue someone, you first have to apply to the court, if for example the sum isn't reasonable in regards to the case, the case will be dismissed straight away. A reasonable sum when it comes to an individual is always very low, rarely above a thousand dollars.

The second difference is that it requires quite a profound case with definite proof in order to reach court, if you don't have that, there is no chance that you will reach court a hearing.

The third difference is that the individual who is being sued does not have to pay a dime. Sweden has a judicial security, the state pays the legal fees unless you have lost the case, then the loser pays the fees.

Companies sueing individuals is practically unheard of in Sweden, since they have nothing to gain by doing so. They can't gain money since the sum has to be low, they can't scare anyone since the person they are sueing doesn't have to bother or pay anything. Pretty much all cases are dismissed and put on a shelf. Sueing altogether is a rarity, it mainly just done between businesses when there is a argument they cannot agree upon

Sweden is, and has been for a very long time, a social democracy. Keeping the social securities at the highest level in the world while the power of major companies are diminished.
 
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Paradox posted on Dec 13 2005 at 09:14 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 13 2005 at 07:46 PM said:
I, too, am waiting for that fabled GB/C emulator... so many great games, all so tiny in size... I could have the entire library on one SD card.

entire library of GB/C/A games would run up in the near 10gig mark i would suspect, plus where do you get the money for all these games? D;


GBA games are, most of them, just a waste of space. Some are really good, yes but most of them are just utterly crap. I take GB/C/SGB over GBA any day :)

Also the whole (s)gb library is 300mb big. Gameboy Color is huge: 1,65GB - however, uncompressed... so yes, you can put the whole gbc library on your sd, if your sd is 2GB that is ;)
 
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pip posted on Dec 13 2005 at 09:40 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 07:26 PM said:
pip posted on Dec 11 2005 at 01:17 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 05:11 PM said:
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.
That may be how it works in the US but certainly not how it works in Sweden. Don't take for granted that every country has your ridiculous laws and procedures regarding sueing.
Well I guess you don't mind only playing Sweden-local games right? And, not that I condone it, but America does sometimes act like they own the world, and have been very succesful at trying to prove that point throughout history.

What is different about the laws in the US and those in Sweden about this particular matter?
The origin of the game doesn't matter. What ever I do in Sweden I do under Swedish laws and regulations.

The are some major differences. First is that in order to sue someone, you first have to apply to the court, if for example the sum isn't reasonable in regards to the case, the case will be dismissed straight away. A reasonable sum when it comes to an individual is always very low, rarely above a thousand dollars.

The second difference is that it requires quite a profound case with definite proof in order to reach court, if you don't have that, there is no chance that you will reach court a hearing.

The third difference is that the individual who is being sued does not have to pay a dime. Sweden has a judicial security, the state pays the legal fees unless you have lost the case, then the loser pays the fees.

Companies sueing individuals is practically unheard of in Sweden, since they have nothing to gain by doing so. They can't gain money since the sum has to be low, they can't scare anyone since the person they are sueing doesn't have to bother or pay anything. Pretty much all cases are dismissed and put on a shelf. Sueing altogether is a rarity, it mainly just done between businesses when there is a argument they cannot agree upon

Sweden is, and has been for a very long time, a social democracy. Keeping the social securities at the highest level in the world while the power of major companies are diminished.



Yes, and you are rubbish at football.



BUT you DID have the great Tenor Jussi Bjoerling as your own. So that makes up for everything!
 
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nickspoon posted on Dec 13 2005 at 08:51 PM said:
I'll try it, when my GP2X comes. There are quite a lot of open source GBC emulators, if I feel like porting. Look forward to that!


great, I'm looking forward to it. I really miss my (s)gb/c classics on my ds and I hate my tiny GBA SP...
 
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pip posted on Dec 13 2005 at 05:40 PM said:
The origin of the game doesn't matter. What ever I do in Sweden I do under Swedish laws and regulations.

The are some major differences. First is that in order to sue someone, you first have to apply to the court, if for example the sum isn't reasonable in regards to the case, the case will be dismissed straight away. A reasonable sum when it comes to an individual is always very low, rarely above a thousand dollars.

The second difference is that it requires quite a profound case with definite proof in order to reach court, if you don't have that, there is no chance that you will reach court a hearing.

The third difference is that the individual who is being sued does not have to pay a dime. Sweden has a judicial security, the state pays the legal fees unless you have lost the case, then the loser pays the fees.

Companies sueing individuals is practically unheard of in Sweden, since they have nothing to gain by doing so. They can't gain money since the sum has to be low, they can't scare anyone since the person they are sueing doesn't have to bother or pay anything. Pretty much all cases are dismissed and put on a shelf. Sueing altogether is a rarity, it mainly just done between businesses when there is a argument they cannot agree upon

Sweden is, and has been for a very long time, a social democracy. Keeping the social securities at the highest level in the world while the power of major companies are diminished.


So how do I go about emigrating to Sweden?

Honestly, that makes much more sense than what we have in the US, where anybody can sue anybody for anything, and usually win. There has got to be some catch. Do you have ridiculous income taxes or something?

- Back on topic - I think we can take it as a given that there WILL be a playable GBA emu in the future. I'll go out on a limb and say it will be within 6 months. Please be assured that anybody with the ability to port an emulator already knows about all available existing projects to port from. There's no point in "well I saw THIS emulator, can't you just port it?" If it is do-able, someone is probably already working on it.
 
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Chip posted on Dec 13 2005 at 10:20 PM said:
There has got to be some catch. Do you have ridiculous income taxes.

If I recall it correctly, highest in the world... :ph34r:
 
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Yuglooc posted on Dec 13 2005 at 11:31 PM said:
Chip posted on Dec 13 2005 at 10:20 PM said:
There has got to be some catch. Do you have ridiculous income taxes.

If I recall it correctly, highest in the world... :ph34r:
Nah, thats not Sweden, thats Denmark ;)
 
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hmm the gba includes the special hardware for the gbc, VBA emulates both but not every GBA emu. Also a GBC is much easier to do than a GBA emu
 
Chip posted on Dec 13 2005 at 11:20 PM said:
There has got to be some catch. Do you have ridiculous income taxes or something?
Yes, amongst the highest in the world. However, in my opinion it is for the better. Since it for example makes school free of charge (including the university), also makes medical care heavily reduced cost-wise. What a high income tax does in the end is decrease the gap between rich and poor.

Currently I don't have to pay any income tax though, since I live on playing Poker and gambling is tax free :)
 
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I heard that Sweden isn't as full of religeous nuts like the US is. Plus Sweden isn't stuck with Bush, the head Jesus freak.

Sweden sounds great, Isn't it really cold up there though?
 
God Ginrai posted on Dec 13 2005 at 04:23 PM said:
Umm.... Wouldn't a GBA emu normally be able to emulate GB/C anyways?

g4m3r posted on Dec 13 2005 at 10:24 PM said:
Would GBC work on a GBA emu?

No, that is why the GB Micro won't do GBC, they pulled the GBC chip out of it.


That is why a GBA emulator and a GBC emulator are different, they are emulating different processors.

I think that GBA is being planned as a virtual machine because the GP2X and the GBA both use ARM for their main processors, same code will run, but sound and video will need to be emulated.

I copied that out of a GBC thread,
I think we are forgetting that the GP2X has such a nice screen, compared to all but the GBA SP BLU ( and you thought gamepark was going nuts with the names :p ), and the controls on the gp2x are actually where I can hit them, unlike the SP which cramp my hands badly after 5 mins (and my hands are abnormally small, well for 122Kilos and nearly 6' of me)
and you could carry around games you own, with only one machine
 
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Yes, there is a version that uses SDL... but I believe that it is a fully "emulated" emulator if you know what I mean (rather than a VM, so it emulates every aspect of GBA in software) so as it is it wouldn't take advantage of the fact that the architecture is the same... and from another thread on this topic I believe that this is the first one? But it is a lot faster than GBA processor, which needs some working around ;)
 
sweeden had gustav II adolf as a king in the 1630s! i just read 1632 by eric flint on my GP2X so it all relates! sweden sounds like a nice place! im a bit hyper lol
 
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