PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor


I'm imagining Excellent Expert comments as being spoken with a heavy russian accent... it's hilarious. \o/

Also, the PGS guys say that GPD didn't have functional prototype during their IGG campaign. But they did provide during the campaign many updates with structural prototypes, 3D printed cases with functional hinge, CAD internal design (3D CG is not CAD), keyboard design, speakers design, heatsink design and so on. ;)
 
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I'm imagining Excellent Expert comments as being spoken with a heavy russian accent... it's hilarious. \o/

Changing the subject slightly... ;)

Speaking of hearing things in a Russian accent, would someone like to be immortalised in a Windows/Pandora game, speaking a number of lines (about 18 very short sentences) in a Russian accent? The game does take the stereotypical piss slightly, and is not meant to be seen as truthful or too serious. I really don't want anyone to be offended. Offers?

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Changing the subject slightly... ;)

Speaking of hearing things in a Russian accent, would someone like to be immortalised in a Windows/Pandora game, speaking a number of lines (about 18 very short sentences) in a Russian accent? The game does take the stereotypical piss slightly, and is not meant to be seen as truthful or too serious. I really don't want anyone to be offended. Offers?

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New Update.....

Update #18

Jul 16 2016

Dear backer, be careful, we are under attack!
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During the last days our project and all web pages were brutally attacked by spammers. They aim to:

- smear our status

- confuse our backers

- make the backers leave our project and so contribute to their own product's development.

The main goal they're obviously trying to achieve is blocking our campaign.

They spam endlessly trying to smear as much as possible. We're almost sure you'll see their filthy comments once this message appears.

One of their principal "arguments" to make you leave us is "absence of prototype" as they call it. However, the link to the prototype has been posted on our Kickstarter page since the compaign began. By the end of the campaign we'll try to show you the renewed version of the prototype.

To those who desperately try to smear our campaing (our competitors) we advise to apply their forces and means (which they spend to hinder us) to create a decent product, able to meet our competition! As it's absolutely clear now that your present project looks quite miserable, let's face the truth.

The next update will contain the information about our production and investment partners.

Thank you for staying with us! We'll never let you down! ;)


I am at a loss for words.

edit: Nadir has also announced his "return" from China

PGS LAB Creator 2 minutes ago
Hello our dear backers!

I am here with you again. Today I returned back from China and I have something to share with you.

The first and the most important. We have signed the contract for developing and manufacturing our devices by one of the leading China\Taiwan microelectronics manufacturers. Under our thorough control, according to our requirements and with our help they will develop both versions of PGS, as well as be responsible for warranty and post-warranty services. They will also take care of manufacturing the main accessories. Later I will share more details about our partner.

Secondly. I've already told you about it, but many of you don't know. We've got an agreement with our investment fund. The agreement comes into force in case of successful Kickstarter campaign. The investing side will be obligated to cover all expenses on production line, producing starting batches of devices, warranty and also other expenses related with the business. Currently I'm negotiating about creating a mini-fund which will ensure the cash back for every backer on this Kickstarter campaign who invested the money, in case the backer changes his mind about having PGS before the official release. I'll try to provide you such opportunity.

To sum it up, the future of the PGS is in safety. The device will make a revolution in portable gaming no matter what our haters and enemies do.

Third. About our foes. In China I was monitoring the mail, private messages on KS, comments on KS, on YouTube, on Twitter, Instagram, even some forums. I've also noticed the unpleasant situation with the KS funding in recent days. Having analyzed the content, messages and comments with our colleagues I've come to a conclusion that we are being attacked by competitors, it's a massive spam attack. There are several people day after day are trying to blacken us. Not only the human resources are used, even spam auto-generating systems work. For instance, our YouTube channel is being daily attacked by about several hundreds of similar messages from bots. Do you know what's the point of all these messages? Something like "People, cancel your pledges, come with us in GPD, we are so cool, we have a better prototype" etc. I'm sorry that I may be excessive but I'm telling about my position.
So, everyone who is a part of this humiliating action, those b**ters who can't compete fairly, instead of supporting the revolution in gaming, they are trying to eliminate us as a threat. They realize that the PGS can ruin their works and to significantly reduce their sales. And we will make this great gaming future, I personally will make it possible.

Do you wants some interesting facts about that "competitors"?
They try to ignore it but I will remind. On the crowdfunding stage they didn't have ANY prototype (compared to us). And even that device which was shown after the campaign was in fact a device based on the weakest variation of the Intel Bay Trail. Even DMC4 runs with 15 FPS on it.

Those f***ers makes an emphasis that we do not have a prototype. I would tell those jerks from rivals to open their eyes wider. The prototype is presented in the bottom of our KS page, and closer to the campaign end we will try our best to present the improved version. Don't like that the case was printed on a 3D printer? Feeling uncomfortable that it is not based on a custom PCB? Those rivaling dumbs are trying to prove that this isn't a prototype at all. I would tell them to stop fooling our backers, just take a look on a definition of the prototype and then keep talking your bull*hit in some other place.

I've also noticed on the NEOGAF forum that some "unique" people appeal others to intentionally throw mud in our comments, to report on our project. Fortunately, opinions of that auditorium will not obstruct the creation of our device.

As for commenters like Erosquare. I know where you came from. I know who sent you. You will not succeed in your pitiful attempts to take away our backers. I thought that "competitors" company were better than that. I was wrong.

The next portion of text I dedicate to our backers, to those who believe in our success. And even when in doubts, they act considerately, they are able to see the potential of our product and they are truly looking forward to see the realization. Guys, thank you. You are our inspiration. It is the fact that you are here helps us going further, together we believe that the future of portable gaming devices is in such form-factor as PGS has. Perhaps, one day there will be the more stronger players on the market creating something that exceeds our works, but we believe that the idea of our product will prove this is the truly demanded type of device as well as the need for further developing the idea. Thank you for confidently ignoring the nonsense of our foes. Thanks for not responding to their provocations, they will try to eliminate us by all means.

We won't let you down!

Best regards,
Nadir
 
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bwahahahahahahaha best response ever. everyone should cease commenting, people who still believe in these idiots are digging their own grave.
 
Traveling all of yesterday, (no, i'm not in or have I since returned from China)

Stage 13 Accused of fraud, guilty of satire.

They are dumb enough to send that out as an update…!?
With a name like that, people are going to click the e-mail they get and make up their own minds about them. More loss at 11.

On the topic of hemorrhage:
PGS, in kicking its own teeth in, has developed a oft voiced foot-in-mouth problem that it has since solved, all it needs now is a prosthetic leg!
 
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This is just awesome :)
It's been a while since I had so much fun following a Kickstarter project :D

I wish I could like your latest comment on their scampaign! I do hope kickstart kibosh them soon. I think next update is critical.
 
These guys are just plain gaslighting at this point. Trying to block out legitimate comments under all sorts of nonsense. It's starting to turn from entertaining and astonishing to annoying and creepy.

I really hope KS pulls them.
 
This is not going to be a popular comment, but I agree with them on one thing. Although the commenters are not GPD/Pyra shills as they claim, I do however agree that you shouldn't mention the GPD WIN(or PYRA) in their KS comments. Mentioning a competitor in the comments is below the belt - and I wouldn't be surprised if it is against KS rules.

Plus you do make it look like you are shills when you do that, and thus you lose credibility in what legitimate criticism you say
 
This is not going to be a popular comment, but I agree with them on one thing. Although the commenters are not GPD shills as they claim, I do however agree that you shouldn't mention the GPD WIN(or PYRA) in their KS comments. Mentioning a competitor in the comments is below the belt - and I wouldn't be surprised if it is against KS rules.

Plus you do make it look like you are shills when you do that, and thus you lose credibility in what legitimate criticism you say

Completely agree. I also believe it is against kickstarter rules, although I am no angel their with my language sometimes. Sadly it gave them the "us against them" angle. Now any legitimate questions are burried by the troll backer accounts.
 
For reasons why it proves a tangible vector of attack, it has not, and will not take place. If it is relevant, sure. PGS went with it anyway. If you cant deal with the argument, go for the person, or a conviction of your creation.

Nadir has taken everyone to the battlegrounds, and it is a theater of comedy and despair.

I predict a record day, that update has shaved off thousands faster than kicktraq updates.
 
Some interesting posts from months before the PGS KS: These are from April

So I got some feedback from them on a forum thread they started. Here's the conversation so far

  • vcoleiro1
    @PGSLab

    When will you have a prototype ready?

    By the way, I'd lose that gimmicky second screen, put the controls in a line above and then add a keyboard in the bottom half. There is a number of games that won't even boot unless they detect a keyboard is attached

  • PGSLab

    @vcoleiro1 Hi. We know about keyboard detection issue in some games. To solve this problem, we wrote a simple driver that emulates a keyboard connection.
    The already have prototypes. We plan to release the final examples of the device in June-Jule 2016
    • vcoleiro1
      @PGSLab

      If you already have a prototype, I think you should show it now. There is a strong opinion on the internet that this is vapour ware at best. That is what people are saying. So showing even a crude prototype now could help convince people otherwise. Also, no one can find any info on your company PGSLab, there is no About section on your site and Google searches come up dry. The only info people have found is that your site is hosted in Russia. But nothing about your company

      Also, the second talking point is the price, is the plan to still make the extreme model $250. Or is that price likely to change

      By the way, a keyboard would be far better than that touchscreen. Second touch screens always end up gimmicky unless like the NDS you have an eco system built around it to support it. But if your locked into that second screen, I suppose me saying this is meaningless.

      Have you guys seen the Pandora (and soon to be released Pyra) and the GPD WIN?

  • PGSLab
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    @vcoleiro Hi. Thanks for suggestions.
    We have several test prototypes, but they are far from what can be shown on the photos ("Frankenstein prototypes" - without case, second display etc). Soon we will have a prototype similar to the final render, which we show in the forums and the press.
    And sure, we know about Pandora\Pyra\GPD WIN.
    Pandora and Pyra are interesting devices. They certainly good fit for emulators. Unfortunately, they are not compatible with Windows games.
    GPD - is pretty well-proven team of developers of gaming systems. Although GPD WIN their first device on Windows, we have no doubt in their success. But unfortunately, in real-world gaming tests with a single-channel memory z8500 almost twice slower than z8750 with dual-channel memory. We wish them luck and hope that they will reconsider their choice about 8500.
    Details about the PGS team, we can tell you later, because the team is still in the process of formation. But now I can say that every member of the team is a fan of portable gaming systems and a highly qualified specialist of his field. Our multilingual team has Americans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians and Indians. Among them, engineers, IT specialists, programmers, etc.
    We very much want the community understands - we realy want to do the best thing in the portable gaming world. Quality materials, quality device. From portable gamers for portable gamers.

rygD
Thanks for comment. We will think about linux support.
Currently, we are negotiating with engineering base of "Yota Devices".

slimeycat
Hello!
1. Sure
2. MicroSD
3. We do not plan to open a pre-order. The device will be available when it is ready (2016Q4). 230-260$.
4. You can see sample of "Frankenstein" prototype in the video that we prepared in the event of release on Kickstarter: (dont share, please)
5. Our company is registered in the United States, Detroit. The head office is located in Moscow. Logistics office in China.

Leafar
Hi! Unfortunately, in the near future, we definitely do not plan to increase the size of the device and its display.
The device is equipped with a micro-hdmi port. The device also supports Miracast and WiDi.
Since both the display using capacitive technology, we do not plan to equip the device with the stylus.
[doublepost=1461446754,1461441181][/doublepost]mius
Thanks for suggestions. We'll think about it.

thatgui
Hi! Yes, we are currently experimenting with an alternative placement of the controls. In the release version, we will raise the analogs just above.

About "early prototype and KS video":
This movie is incomplete. It was created a long time ago, when we were still planning to go on Kickstarter. An early prototype was created almost two years ago. To create it, we used the stuff from Cube iWork 7 2\32 (not Linx). Current prototypes are assembled from more recent hardware (z8700\4gb).
 
Traveling all of yesterday, (no, i'm not in or have I since returned from China)

Stage 13 Accused of fraud, guilty of satire.

They are dumb enough to send that out as an update…!?
With a name like that, people are going to click the e-mail they get and make up their own minds about them. More loss at 11.

On the topic of hemorrhage:
PGS, in kicking its own teeth in, has developed a oft voiced foot-in-mouth problem that it has since solved, all it needs now is a prosthetic leg!

Nice update :) I'd like to provide some details concerning this part:
Alternative theory, these people, like the youtube comments they didnt leave behind, never existed. PGS realizes their project will get taken down, and create an enemy it can deal with.
PGS cannot compete fairly.

Some "negative comments" did exist but not hundreds of them as Nadir stated. Here is my personal history on one of their Youtube video.

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The last message of Dilan states the following:
"Nope, I'm not the one crying over what I bought but I won't take it right now."

Now let's take a look at the current comments:

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if we try to unfold the replies...

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Link to the video:
They just kept the part where Dilan was saying that he wanted to back the project. If that's not misinformation, I don't know how to call it... They also removed some other "negative comments" but there really were a few of them.
 
Youtube comments are always filled with negativity and bile. That's how it is. And I do agree it's inappropriate to link to competitors in KS comments but in this case the people who are doing so are really just trying to do the PGS backers a favor.

People who think that any kind of opposition or criticism is professional shilling need to get over themselves. Guess what, not everything is a conspiracy against you. Sometimes you're just wrong, or at least popularly opposed.
 
I dont know at what point you read the story, i added to it afterwards. Basically there cant have been hundreds of posts on youtube, because they have anti-spam features. Also, they would have kept proof of it, not reimplement it in their own broken English.

"How about 2012 footage of the same footage, with someone else playing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUByjCvKT0&feature=youtu.be&t=23s Now look at the watermark at 0:18 again"

Thats my comment. (which you can't see anymore unless logged in)
 
hey, this dramastory is really fun to read! :)
i just hope no potential customer looses too much money with this.
...better risc than risk! ;)
 
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