iCP2: They're throwing in the towel.


Honestly, that Mark continues to believe Craig will deliver the ICP1s beggars belief. Either Mark is stupid beyond all hope or he just doesn't give a crap any more.

Mark - Did Craig actually give you a tracking number or are you just taking him at his word?
 
Or... he is doing what he can has to hope that Craig will send something?


Seriously your only options were stupid/doesn't give a crap... believe it or not not everyone is a bastard.
Craig has lied constantly, stolen funds and delivered absolutely nothing he said he would. In my opinion believing there's a possibility Craig will actually follow through with his word at this point is an act of stupidity. The alternative being Mark is happy to leave it in Craig's hand because he doesn't really care to deal with it.

I never said Mark was a bastard. If I was in his position I'd struggle to give a crap too.
 
Or... he is doing what he can has to hope that Craig will send something?


Seriously your only options were stupid/doesn't give a crap... believe it or not not everyone is a bastard.
Craig has lied constantly, stolen funds and delivered absolutely nothing he said he would. In my opinion believing there's a possibility Craig will actually follow through with his word at this point is an act of stupidity. The alternative being Mark is happy to leave it in Craig's hand because he doesn't really care to deal with it.

I never said Mark was a bastard. If I was in his position I'd struggle to give a crap too.
I agree with this. On the other hand, ED has proven that he has what it takes to keep the project alive - he's responsible, accountable and honest.
 
Honestly, that Mark continues to believe Craig will deliver the ICP1s beggars belief. Either Mark is stupid beyond all hope or he just doesn't give a crap any more.


Mark - Did Craig actually give you a tracking number or are you just taking him at his word?
Theres always the remote chance that the icp1 are caught in a car fire.
 
Honestly, that Mark continues to believe Craig will deliver the ICP1s beggars belief. Either Mark is stupid beyond all hope or he just doesn't give a crap any more.
What'll be your explanation if people actually do get iCP1s?
 
Honestly, that Mark continues to believe Craig will deliver the ICP1s beggars belief. Either Mark is stupid beyond all hope or he just doesn't give a crap any more.
What'll be your explanation if people actually do get iCP1s?
What a pointless question. If they get iCP1s then obviously I was wrong. But do you really think I am? I certainly don't. Either way I still think trusting Craig with anything at all is either stupid or reckless. His track record shows he's totally unreliable and will happily lie to get people off his back and buy a little time. I'd be willing to bet Craig hasn't given Mark a tracking number. Or at least not a valid one.

What will your explanation be when they iCP1s still haven't arrived in another month?
 
What a pointless question. If they get iCP1s then obviously I was wrong. But do you really think I am? I certainly don't. Either way I still think trusting Craig with anything at all is either stupid or reckless. His track record shows he's totally unreliable and will happily lie to get people off his back and buy a little time. I'd be willing to bet Craig hasn't given Mark a tracking number. Or at least not a valid one.

What will your explanation be when they iCP1s still haven't arrived in another month?
What should I provide an explanation for? I'm not saying at all that I have strong confidence it'll actually happen but you're way too confident that it won't, saying it's stupid beyond all hope to even report that Craig says he shipped them. What exactly is your criticism with Link here? Should the update have been instead "Craig told me he shipped them so I'm sure he didn't, enjoy not getting your iCP1s"? Or maybe no update?
 
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What should I provide an explanation for? I'm not saying at all that I have strong confidence it'll actually happen but you're way too confident that it won't, saying it's stupid beyond all hope to even report that Craig says he shipped them. What exactly is your criticism with Link here? Should the update have been instead "Craig told me he shipped them so I'm sure he didn't, enjoy not getting your iCP1s"? Or maybe no update?
All I'm saying is that taking Craig for his word is foolish given his long history of dishonesty and incompetence. If I were Mark I wouldn't have mentioned the iCP1s at all until I actually have them in my hand, because if he has to start posting more excuses when Craig shafts him yet again he's just going to look worse than he does now. Putting your reputation in Craig's hands isn't exactly a smart move. Especially when you've already been burned once.
 
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If I were Mark I wouldn't have mentioned the iCP1s at all until I actually have them in my hand
I kind of agree with that.

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On a side note, it would great to stop the fighting here between community members, every time a new update comes up. There's nothing to gain in pissing off each other's. No need to aggravate the situation further.
 
The update said "according to Craig, they were shipped last week". I don't see how that implies he is trusting Craig. If he would trust Craig, he would have said "they were shipped last week", without the "according to Craig". It's rather obvious that there is no trust left at all.

But what's the alternative? Should Link fly all the way to the UK to personally grab those iCP1s? Should he stop sending out updates about the refund process?

I think it was an informative and honest update, and I like that. It's clear from this update that something will have to happen this month: either the iCP1s arrive and then the refund processing can start, or they don't arrive (meaning Craig lied again, unless he has proof that the delivery company messed up but then it should not be too hard to get financial compensation out of that, provided he used a correct shipping method) and then the refund processing should probably also start, with lower refunds because of the missing iCP1s.
 
Yep, probably not shipped or craig never provide a tracking number...

Don't care, some kind of a refund would be nice but I have already written the money off.
 
"RAWR! Link doesn't update! He should be telling us everything! Get the rope, it's time to teach him a lesson!"

"RAWR! Link sent an update that he can't confirm! Get the rope, it's time to teach him a lesson!"
 
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"RAWR! Link doesn't update! He should be telling us everything! Get the rope, it's time to teach him a lesson!"


"RAWR! Link sent an update that he can't confirm! Get the rope, it's time to teach him a lesson!"
How about you actually read what I said? 

And no need to be a complete twat about it just because you disagree with me.
 
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